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Old 01-05-2014, 10:04 AM   #121
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Anyone know if licking donkey balls is also popular in Asia?
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But anyways, on a more serious note:

OP, I think you may have answered your own question. You say you loved her first three albums. The next two, you say, tanked sales-wise. You don't mention whether or not you loved, liked, barely tolerated or hated those next two, but since you don't mention loving them, I'm going to go with liked at best, and you probably would be admitting that her latest output falls far short of what you like(d) about her music.

So there's the answer, really. She's just not kept her output up to her usual par. Whether or not anyone else here or elsewhere ever liked her music is kindof irrelevant, I mean I never did, but I will acknowledge that she did at least have some sort of fan base. But that fan base will only stick around so long as she makes the kind of music that endeared her to them.

And finally, honestly, comparing her to many of those other female artists you list isn't really fair. They have at least 2 distinct advantages over her: vocal prowess, and sex appeal. She never really had either, I mean she was decent but her thing was never in the same league as a Beyonce or Lady Gaga...ever, really. And then there's Pink.. Avril never could stack up against any of them, really.
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Even back in 2002, I found her bland brand of teen angst pop-rock utterly nauseating. It was always going to have a limited shelf-life, and unless she was able to reinvent herself pretty drastically (with strong material) her appeal wasn't going to endure. She couldn't and she hasn't. Case closed.
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Let's not forget that before she married Kroeger and his volumes upon volumes of hits, she was married to one of the tossers from Sum 41. Great taste in men right there.
This is the first (and only) thing that comes to my mind re: Avril.

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Lady G is destroying only her own legacy these days, so that's one down...
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Ok, I guess it's time to let the cat out of the increasingly frayed bag.

I caused Avril Lavigne's career to go downhill. It was me.
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Not even GAF or Ashley are this passionate about crappy pop music.

Beyonce is still going strong because she makes fucking awesome music.

In short: why would anyone listen to anything by someone involved with Chad Kroeger?
Not true. I do find it rather interesting how quickly Avril fell off, but not shocking in the slightest.

The only artist the OP mentioned still going strong that is contemporaneous to Avril, is Pink. Why is Pink still a success while Avril wallows in mediocrity? The obvious answer is because she married Chad Kroeger, but, digging a little deeper: her music is dated, and, at least towards the end of her relevancy, she never really tried to do much about that. Pink, on the other hand, fairly quickly embraced adult alternative radio, and she's been reaping the benefits ever since.
Avril seemed to want to make a career out of being a 30-year-old skate Punk, and no one was buying it.

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I had a friend call Katy Perry a flash in a pan. I don't think so. Ace of base was a flash. One huge album, one mild album and then done. She's already past them. Not sure what lavinge is. I know cyndi lauper is one step above a flash. Borderline. She could not sustain commerical success by the third door.
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Get the fuck outta here with your disparaging of Cyndi Lauper.

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