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Old 01-27-2011, 12:00 AM   #16
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This Birds of Tokyo song sounds like Hoobastank covering Breakeven. Holy fuck.
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What a shit article
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Nelly Furtado should push Sparkadia down the stairs for stealing Say It Right.

Yeah, I'm just going through the list and listening to the songs by bands with funny names.
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Old 01-27-2011, 03:09 AM   #21
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I've been finding the TripleJ hottest 100 increasingly underwhelming for some years now. Being as how it is a listener-voted list, and being as how it coincides with the dodgy-populist luv-in of Australia Day and the BDO, it's sort of unavoidable I suppose.

Angus and Julia Stone, who I had given little thought to until now, sound rather like they've been inhaling helium.

Most of the Australian artists featured heavily on TripleJ are (while a little better than their commercial-FM contemporaries) pretty ordinary in my opinion. And there is a real tendency to focus on these unearthed acts, many of them not even out of high school. Novelty factor aside, what the fuck do a bunch of school kids have to tell me?

Furthermore, I think even for some of the greats over the last decade or so, their association with the station has not necessarily worked out so happily. I wonder if being a little too chummy with the hand that feeds is not a problem. Augie March spring to mind. They steadily watered themselves down to nothing, had a bit of a win with their big ballad number, and then just quit. Way to go. These guys could have been fucking Radiohead.

Another gripe while I am at it: the faux-populist thing about 'hardest working' this and that. I don't care if a band puts out an album every week and tours non-stop: if they are rubbish, then they are doing nobody any favours.
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I've heard, let's see, four songs out of this top 10. I'm certainly out of touch with the yoof.
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Interesting that numbers 11-100 are all titled "Have Your Say."

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It's a popular tune for sure. It's set to the ABC new theme and features rapping.
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Triple J normally also publishes 101-200 at some point, don't they? Anybody seen it this time around?
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Interesting that numbers 11-100 are all titled "Have Your Say."

since when do you use smilies??
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I've decided to use them for today and today only.

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The problem, one of the many, with the Australian hip hop featured on Triple J is that the artists um, rap almost exclusively about the topic of Australian hip hop.

Those that venture beyond this cul de sac are often just plain embarrassing.
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Alright, here it is. My rant about Australian hip hop, Aussie hip hop, skip hop.

Frankly, it is fucking terrible. I never hated it as passionately as I do now until about six months, a year ago, when I started to really get into American hip hop. I will admit that I have liked a few songs. Hilltop Hoods are the best of a very bad bunch. Their song Chase That Feeling is a good tune, and they've got a few other alright ones as well. I'm also a fan of this song:

YouTube - Pez feat. 360 - The Festival Song - Music Video [WITH LYRICS]

But this is more for sentimental-type reasons, as I've been to Pyramid Rock Festival the past two years for new years and had a great time with friends, when you really lose most of your cares. Plus it's more sung than rapped. If you don't want to click play you'll probably know it as "I love summer days..."

The fact that any Aussie hip hop song made this list is bad enough, though completely understandable. But what really riles me is that any skip hop tune finished higher on the list than Kanye's Monster (or Runaway), and Big Boi's Shutterbugg. Kanye and Big Boi have more talent in their left testicles than all the skip hop acts have combined.

The three biggest problems I have with "skip hop":

1) The music (so... the production?). Good American hip hop contains exciting, bewitching, awesome, sick, etc, etc, etc music and a lot of the producers have crafted some truly brilliant beats and samples and the like behind their rappers. J Dilla, Organized Noize, Dr Dre... the list goes on. No one would continually listen to it if it was a capella, so that shows that a lot of the genre hinges on the sounds made by the relatively faceless crew behind the rappers. I am yet to hear a skip hop song with anything that could be described as a decent beat. A lot of them rely on guitar, over-use of scratching, or annoying samples. Illy, a rapper who I saw five minutes of at Pyramid, was apparently "going off". Why? Because one of the songs he was rapping was backed by MIA's Paper Planes, and people were jumping up and down during the chorus of that song, not during his putrid raps. Shutterbugg sounds so much better than any skip hop song that it's gone from being not funny back to being funny again. And I hate to continually bring up Outkast (well, not really ) but the day that a skip hop artist comes up with a song half as inventive, creative, ambitious as SpottieOttieDopalicious is the day Dave Hughes becomes PM.

2) The lyrics. A lot of people who don't like hip hop point to the "guns, bitches, drugs, money" focus by a number of rappers. Which is fair enough, but there aren't that many good artists who sing about this for the sake of singing about it; usually there is a deepeer point, which is what N.W.A. was getting at. But beyond this American hip hop has covered an amazingly broad array of lyrical themes, from the lowest points of life surrounding drugs and death, to the best days, love, marriage, children. Skip hop artists, by comparison, have nothing to write about, or at least nothing interesting to write about. One of the more popular songs by the artist in the video above is about his infatuation with Bec Cartwright, and the lyrics are, quite literally, "hey, Lleyton! your missus is hot mate!" A number of 15-seconds skip hop artists have had small hits with ordinary songs about "life" (see 3Seven7's "Ready to Brawl", from the Bra Boys soundtrack) and then disappeared because they've got nothing else to write about. But even the artists that have stuck around struggle: Bliss n Eso are a very popular example. One of their biggest songs is called "The Sea is Rising", which is about global warming. It's a crap topic to sing about regardless, but at least if a more talented artist tried it, the lyrics would be more subtle, more thought-provoking.

3) The vocals. My biggest gripe. Skip hop artists all have this similar twang in their voices when they "rap" and it sounds horrendous. To me it's like the old nails-on-a-chalkboard and puts me off nearly every song I've heard.

i'm just jaded.
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