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Old 08-20-2010, 04:45 PM   #31
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My sources told me that it's about Mofo and Shouter, specifically.
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Identifies himself as Win's brother.

I suspect some of the others who mention having been there might also be band members but I don't know.
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"What's the big deal, I stole Win Butler's album off the internet."

And ... WIN.
this quote also made me laugh when I read it.
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Old 08-20-2010, 08:53 PM   #33
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Oh my dear god what is that horrible song they're singing
At least Win can admit the chorus is awful.

...more like the Suckburbs, amirite?
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My sources told me that it's about Mofo and Shouter, specifically.
This is about the most offensive thing someone could say to me, so thanks.
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Old 08-21-2010, 02:14 PM   #35
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After three careful listens to this album, I can't quite understand why it is so long. It beings and ends strongly, but the middle seems to be completely amorphous. "City with No Children," "Half Light II," and "Suburban War" especially seem to be nothing more than excuses to beat the listener over the head with the theme.

On a positive note, "Sprawl II" is majestic. Regine really nails the vocal.
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"City with No Children," .. and "Suburban War" especially seem to be nothing more than excuses to beat the listener over the head with the theme.
Two of my favourites
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Old 08-21-2010, 04:34 PM   #37
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Nice post LM, but I can't resist bringing this up because it's one of my favorite lyrical moments on the album.

It's not "Now you're knocking at my door, saying 'Please come out against the night.'" It's "Now you're knocking at my door, saying 'Please come out with us tonight.'"

It's a huge difference, and such a great lyric for me, because it immediately takes me back to being a kid, before cell phones and the internet were in everyone's possession, and friends from the neighborhood would have to go to eachother's parent's houses and knock on the front door and ask if they could come and hang out for the night.

It brings back a lot of good memories and goes a long way, for me, towards evoking the atmosphere and image that the album is going for: growing up a middle class white kid in pre-information era suburban America.

Great album.
Did you guys ever use the phrase 'call on'? as in 'let go call on GAF' when you were going to knock on someones door? It's something I havent heard in years, but I dont know if it was a colloquialism. I dont imagine anyone at all uses it these days
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I used it all the time as a kid.
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Why did I get an hour's worth of music when I paid for this album? I should have only gotten 40 minutes or so. That would have been much better. What is this horseshit?
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Longer doesn't always mean better.

No matter what.
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The album length is perfect. The whole point is the overall theme weaving in and out of the songs throughout.
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Why did I get an hour's worth of music when I paid for this album? I should have only gotten 40 minutes or so. That would have been much better. What is this horseshit?
One might argue that forty minutes of consistent quality is preferable to an hour of inconsistency. Would you really have preferred that an album like Kid A, for instance, had songs like "Transatlantic Drawl" just tossed into the mix because they were available? I look for an album to be a cohesive experience, and to me using the word "suburbs" in every other line does not necessarily make a cohesive experience.

I think that High Violet offers an interesting contrast to this album. Both are about middle-age frustrations, but the National is able to make their point with atmosphere and metaphor rather than repeated explicit invocations.

And just for the record, I like The Suburbs. It has some incredible high points. I simply think that, in haranguing the listener with the theme as adamantly as he does, Butler has either severely underestimated the intelligence of his audience or severely overestimated his own intelligence.
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I think that if The Suburbs were to fuck High Violet and they conceived, a new religion would be formed.
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Why did I get an hour's worth of music when I paid for this album? I should have only gotten 40 minutes or so. That would have been much better. What is this horseshit?
Here's an analogy you can appreciate: director's cuts don't always mean a better film.
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Did you guys ever use the phrase 'call on'? as in 'let go call on GAF' when you were going to knock on someones door? It's something I havent heard in years, but I dont know if it was a colloquialism. I dont imagine anyone at all uses it these days

That makes me think of Cori referring to her dates as "gentleman callers".
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