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Old 07-27-2011, 07:45 PM   #226
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Uh oh, looks like someone's on his period...
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:49 PM   #227
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I'm with Imp. The Doors were overrated.
Add me to that list in big, bold, calligraphy style writing. Dot any 'i's with little hearts too
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Uh oh, looks like someone's on his period...
I had just added that I'm a Doors fan and was perplexed why IY would think otherwise...but then I realized I've never really talked about the band before, so he had no reason to really assume one way or the other.....amongst other potential reasons.

That being said, I don't really lose much sleep if people want to bash The Doors. Different strokes....
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:53 PM   #229
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The reason that I cannot understand the claim that The Doors are overrated is that they are not rated all that highly in the first place. Most reviews that I have read are lukewarm toward everything but the debut and perhaps LA Woman, while others, like Pitchfork, exert a considerable amount of energy trying to present Jim as a laughing-stock. Perhaps the local classic rock station rates them highly, but the critics in general do not see them as anything more than a decent singles band, or so it seems to me.
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:54 PM   #230
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It seems like a lot of people here who would rip into the bullshit martyrdom that makes others think Cobain was more important than he was (and rightfully so) are too far removed from earlier musicians who have been elevated to those heights for the very same reason to be completely objective.

And to compare Winehouse to Britney Spears shows you have little knowledge about what constitutes real talent and songwriting
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Old 07-27-2011, 07:55 PM   #231
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Winehouse and Morrison definately belong in the same sentence. Not just in the similarities ie inspiring a whole new set of similar artists, but also in how much a shell of their former selves they were at their ends. At his best, Morrison was poetic and charismatic onstage. At her best, Winehouse had an amazing voice and a ton of talent.

By the end, however, Morrison was dull as anything live and barely present. Winehouse wasnt much good for anything.

Its possible to recognize both of their relative importance to their musical genrration without necessarily sacrificing ones soul, Id imagine.

Cobain? Massively overrated, far more than anyone mentioned in this thread. Grohl was and is far far a superior talent.

Rjhbonovox I guess you didnt hear the instruction to leave Jackson out of it. Doesnt matter, you lost all credibility with your ridiculous assertion that everything after his first album was shit, period.
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Thankfully, or no thanks, that is your opinion.
Damn straight it is. Don't take it to mean any more than that.

I just really hate the sound of the organ in a rock band context, and their music is steeped in it. Couple that with Morrison's numerous instances in which he would go a mile up his own ass every record and the fact that classic Doors songs are in the minority on every one of their releases and I simply cannot rank them amongst the likes of The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc.
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I simply cannot rank them amongst the likes of The Who, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, etc.
Well, hell, I'll agree with this. I enjoy The Doors and all, but, no, they're not in the same league as these bands.....
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I have heard exactly two Doors songs.
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I would argue that both the debut and Strange Days are genuinely great albums. The debut may be among my top ten favorite albums ever. It is at once dirty and soulful, and even "Alabama Song" contributes to the rollicking, irreverent attitude of the whole thing. On top of that, "Break on Through" and "Crystal Ship" each accomplish in two minutes what a lot of bands try to do in their whole careers. The albums after Strange Days are definitely spotty at best, but those first two are deserving of more credit around here, I think.
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Grohl was and is far far a superior talent.
Far, far superior!

Everything after the second Foo Fighters album has been pretty fucking generic. While the guy was certainly too talented to simply be a drummer behind someone's else's songs, he probably should have been at a George Harrison level, a couple of his own cuts per (hypothetical) future Nirvana album.

Kurt isn't the be-all, end-all of alternative music, but he was a gifted writer and melodicist, and his vocal delivery is a lot more memorable than Grohl's.


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Well, hell, I'll agree with this. I enjoy The Doors and all, but, no, they're not in the same league as these bands.....
I'm not going to argue with it either.
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And to compare Winehouse to Britney Spears shows you have little knowledge about what constitutes real talent
That depends on how you want to define "talent," if you get my meaning.
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That depends on how you want to define "talent," if you get my meaning.
I hear ya
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I'll tell you how I define it: A MAN AND A WOMAN. THE WAY GOD INTENDED IT.


Oh, sorry. I thought I was some asshole over in FYM.
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Well, hell, I'll agree with this. I enjoy The Doors and all, but, no, they're not in the same league as these bands.....




I guess to get back to the crux of the thread, obviously its very sad that a performer like Amy passed away at the age of 27. She definitely brought something unique to the music world. We just didn't get too much of a chance to hear her work. Obviously, we haven't heard the last of her. It's just a question of how long they'll wait until they release any new material.
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