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Old 04-08-2008, 07:37 PM   #631
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Sometime in the 80's, Adam made the comment in an interview that he tended to be the only U2 member in the studio when Bono was singing his vocal tracks, and that he never actually listened to the WORDS of what he was singing, but to the sound of it, and if the sound of what Bono was singing was wrong, then he would comment. The actual words were not the issue.

Anyway, even Stipe admits the first 2 REM albums are all mumble and even he often has no idea what he was singing about
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Old 04-08-2008, 08:04 PM   #632
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I think in relation to the whole abstract thing in Stipe's lyrics, I think people can be over romantic about it. ("He was way better in the good old days! when he just mumbled!") Yes, one of the bands strangths was how 10 people could listen to the same song and all come up with different interpretations but I don't believe they've lost the ability to do that. Regarding the actual lyrics themselves, I've got to agree with people who say that some of the lyrics are cringeworthy. Especially I'm Gonna DJ.("With a kickin' playlist", "Hey steady steady, hey steady steady, I don't wanna go until I'm good and ready") And Man Sized Wreath ("Kick it out on the dancefloor like you just don't care").However, despite his continueing tendencies to write sappy lines like these, overall, I think this album is one of his soundest in terms of lyrics for a good ten years. And he still has a unique way of describing a scene without actually spelling it out to people. Some of my own favourite lyrics are ;

Living Well Is The Best Revenge;
"You work it out. Let's hear that argument again. On camera 3! Go. Now!" (In relation to a news reporter reporting on the Bush administration that Stipe wasn't impressed with.)

Man Sized Wreath;
"Wave the palms, steal the alms, a fist in the air. A motorcade of benign strength shows the people that you care" (Describing protestors at a Martin Luther King memorial service against a George Bush public speech")

"Well I'm not deceived by pomp and odious conceit"

Supernatural Superserious;
"And you realise your fantasies are, dressed up in travesties"

Houston;
"Belief has not failed me and so I am put to the test"(Written from the point of view of a Katrina victim I imagine.)

Accelerate;
"Uncertainty is suffocating"

Until The Day Is Done is one of the most interesting to me. While it seems like a straight out song aout the environment, it seems to have a lot of religious elements to it. For instance, it's not, "facing the sun", it's, "facing the son". He goes onto say "a voice whispers son, the blessed vision comes" Then again in, "Forgive us our trespasses, Father and Son" Not that straightforward as on the first listen.

I'm Gonna DJ;
"Music will provide the light you cannot resist." (I don't care how sappy it might sound, that's a great way to end an album!).
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I think in relation to the whole abstract thing in Stipe's lyrics, I think people can be over romantic about it. ("He was way better in the good old days! when he just mumbled!") Yes, one of the bands strangths was how 10 people could listen to the same song and all come up with different interpretations but I don't believe they've lost the ability to do that.
I for one am not talking about Murmur or Reckoning, but the period from Fables through Green. You may not know WHAT he's talking about all the time, but you can certainly understand most of what he's singing.

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However, despite his continueing tendencies to write sappy lines like these, overall, I think this album is one of his soundest in terms of lyrics for a good ten years.
Well that's not saying much. There have only been 2 albums in the last 10 years, and the lyrics on them were pretty bad. I don't think what's on Accelerate is even close to what he did on Up, for the most part.


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Until The Day Is Done is one of the most interesting to me. While it seems like a straight out song aout the environment, it seems to have a lot of religious elements to it. For instance, it's not, "facing the sun", it's, "facing the son". He goes onto say "a voice whispers son, the blessed vision comes" Then again in, "Forgive us our trespasses, Father and Son" Not that straightforward as on the first listen.
The environment? Where are you getting that from? It seems to me to be about the Bush Administration in general, the Religious Right that drove it to power, and the Iraq War. To me, "father and son" is likely referring to Bush Senior and Bush Junior, though there is certainly a religious metaphor being used as well.
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Old 04-08-2008, 08:34 PM   #634
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The environment? Where are you getting that from? It seems to me to be about the Bush Administration in general, the Religious Right that drove it to power, and the Iraq War. To me, "father and son" is likely referring to Bush Senior and Bush Junior, though there is certainly a religious metaphor being used as well.
My mistake about the environment link. I've just always linked the song to an environmental element since it was used on the Anderson Cooper show. Got lost half way through my own post.
Never thought about the father and son reference being about Bush senior and junior. Looking at the lines in context to the song, I still think it's more about a religious reference but definitely works for both.
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Old 04-08-2008, 09:52 PM   #635
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I don't ignore writing, it's just never much of a make-or-break factor in what or how I listen to...
That's how I feel, and better said than what I'd previously posted.

I also think it's pointless to be disappointed by or analyze lyrics in what are obviously silly, fun songs like I'm Gonna DJ.
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Old 04-08-2008, 11:17 PM   #636
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Here is my current ranking of the Accelerate tracks:

1. Living Well
2. Sing For The Submarine (I'm LOVING this one)
3. Houston
4. Mr. Richards
5. Horse To Water
6. Man Sized Wreath
7. Accelerate
8. Supernatural Superserious
9. I'm Gonna DJ
10. Hollow Man
11. Until The Day Is Done

Redhead Walking is also pretty damn cool
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Old 04-09-2008, 10:24 AM   #637
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1. Horse To Water


11. Until The Day Is Done


All the rest chop and change in between....
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Old 04-09-2008, 11:33 AM   #638
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I like Until the Day is Done. The lyrics aren't subtle, but I enjoy the music. Anyways, my ranking:

1. Living Well is the Best Revenge (best R.E.M. song in a long time IMHO)
2. Houston
3. Horse To Water
4. Accelerate
5. Until the Day is Done
6. Man-Sized Wreath
7. Supernatural Superserious
8. Sing For the Submarine
9. Hollow Man
10.I'm Gonna DJ
11.Mr Richards

I like the first 5 or 6 songs (Houston and Horse To Water are great), those on the bottom list are listenable, but cheesy as hell (hello Hollow Man and I'm Gonna DJ). Mr Richards is simply dull.
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Old 04-09-2008, 12:18 PM   #639
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Decent sales at 115,000. But being beaten by a country relic still hurts, although #2 is certainly the highest they've reached since New Adventures peaked there as well in 1996.
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Hey, U2's comeback album debuted at #3. Granted, it was behind two of the biggest and best hip-hop acts at the time, but still. They should be glad to even make the Top 5 after those last two turds.

Also, I thought the numbers weren't usually in until 2 weeks after?
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The numbers for a week get released the following Wednesday, and then printed in the following Billboard issue, which is usually the week after said Wednesday.
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Anything big coming out next week? Maybe word of mouth will be good and they can jump a spot.
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You mean this week.

Not much this week. Nine Inch Nails came out, I believe.

Mariah Carey's disc comes out next week, so forget it after that.
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Hey, U2's comeback album debuted at #3.
Just wondering, which come back album? ATYC?
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Yeah, ATYCLB hit #3.

Bomb hit #1.
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