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Old 04-05-2004, 03:24 PM   #1
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Until The End of The World

A song about Judas Iscariot and Jesus? Parts like
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Last time we met was a low-lit room
We were as close together as a bride and groom
We ate the food, we drank the wine
Everybody having a good time
Except you
You were talking about the end of the world
It sounds like Bono is referring to the Last Supper right there. Does anyone agree?
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Old 04-05-2004, 04:23 PM   #2
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I don't think there's any doubt.

It alludes to the last supper, the kiss, the taking of the money, and his suicide. Plus there are several live versions of Bono screaming out "hey Judas" at the opening of the song.
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Old 04-06-2004, 11:57 PM   #3
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The allusions to Judas and The Last Supper in "Until The End of the World" are numerous. A reference is not only made about The Last Supper, but also to a garden and a kiss. The story Judas has him betray Christ with a kiss in a garden. After betraying Christ, Judas was struck with immediate regret. The end of the song is appropriate in its confession of "I reached out for the one I tried to destroy."

Have you seen the video for "Until The End of the World"? It is featured on my Interference From Zoo-TV video.
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Old 04-07-2004, 12:36 AM   #4
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Excellent story-telling by Bono. Yes, without a doubt, the song
is about Judas, his betrayal of Christ, and the guilt he feels right before he commits suicide by hanging.
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Yep, the others are right. Regularly before live performances, Bono has yelled out "Hey Jeeesus, this is Juuudas!"
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Old 04-10-2004, 05:31 AM   #6
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That's definitely what it's about. I went to see "The Passion" today, and really (for the first time, actually) understood the whole story when we read it at church yesterday ... I was reminded of all these lines out of U2 songs that had to do with the Passion.

From UTEOTW:

In the garden I was playing the tart
I kissed your lips and broke your heart.
You, you were acting like it was the end of the world

And also from ISHFWILF:

You broke the bonds
And you loosed the chains
Carried the cross of my shame
Oh my shame, you know I believe it.

I love the way Bono can write a Biblical reference so seamlessly into a song, as he did with these two and with so many more. It is very ... comforting, I suppose ... there's just something nice about knowing MY favourite band understand the importance of Christianity.
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And don't forget When Love Comes to Town:

I was there when they crucified my Lord
I held the scabbard when the soldier drew his sword.
I threw the dice when they pierced his side
But I've seen love conquer the great divide.
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I know this thread is kinda old, but I'm getting a little obsessed with this song.

Is this written from the perspective of Jesus to Judas, or of a conversation between the two? know it's about Judas's betrayal, and in the Elevation at Notre Dame bootleg he screams out "Judas this is Jesus" when opening the song. But the 2nd and 3rd verses are from the perspective of Judas, right?

Also, what is this referring to? Did Judas spike Jesus's wine at some point?

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I took the money
I spiked your drink
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Originally posted by neutral
I know this thread is kinda old, but I'm getting a little obsessed with this song.

Is this written from the perspective of Jesus to Judas, or of a conversation between the two? know it's about Judas's betrayal, and in the Elevation at Notre Dame bootleg he screams out "Judas this is Jesus" when opening the song. But the 2nd and 3rd verses are from the perspective of Judas, right?

Also, what is this referring to? Did Judas spike Jesus's wine at some point?

I've read interviews with Bono where he says it is a conversation
between Judas and Jesus. To me, it sounds more like a one-sided
conversation with just Judas talking.
Wow! Wasn't aware of the Notre Dame performance. Throws a
whole different light on the song. OH! THought of something.
"Judas this is Jesus" may be setting the plot line for what is to follow. We know now Judas and Jesus are going to be involved in this story (song).
I'm pretty sure after Bono yells and the song begins, it's all
Judas' perspective on the events.
I think Judas did spike the wine Jesus drank at Last Supper. I'm not 100% certain of this though.
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I thought it was "Jesus, this is Judas"
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Old 06-18-2004, 04:36 PM   #11
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I thought it was "Jesus, this is Judas"
Me too. I've never heard of the version where it switched
around.
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I didn't think it was ever switched ...
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It wasn't. I just listened to the Notre Dame bootleg again. I have
-no- idea why I accidentally switched it around when I posted that. Oops.

Too much wine on the brain that night perhaps.
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I think the "spike" refers 2 dipping the bread in the same cup as Jesus....remember....read Ur Gospels.
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The best place to look up Bono's biblical references would be from Eugene Peterson's The Message. Bono quotes Psalm 116 verbatim during the Boston Elevation concert.... and also Psalm 51:15 during the superbowl
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