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Old 05-28-2006, 12:07 PM   #1
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Did anyone notice after U2's performance at the Grammy's this year when the camara pointed to the audience and there was a long shot of this women who stood up to applaud the band?

I didn't know who she was at the time, but I had heard from people in other forum's that she was a high ranking member/leader of the Scientology church. A few people replied saying that "she will be after him (I'm persuming Bono) to try and convince that scientology can help out with his causes, she will need someone who appears stable, especcially after what's happening with Tom Cruise, etc".

If she was looking for her next recruits I reckon she'd target the whole band, but I doubt she'd be successful. This is why:

1/Bono, Edge and Larry is a devout Christian for many years. Although they are tolerant of other religions (ie: Jewish, islam), these are major real religions who all recognise each other's prophets, but disagree on who is the son of God, etc. Scientology is completely at odds with any of these religions. It is a cult that believes we are infected by the murdered aliens from the past.

2/In Mischka's book last year, Bono mentioned that he did not agree with self-help counselling. Although Scientology proclaims it's against psychiatry, it does practice auditing, which is a type of Freudian councelling which helps to bring the "unconcious mind conscious". This therapy has been critizised for being highly dangerous by private investigaters because suggestions can be made of a persons supposedly bad behaviour, leaving the person succeptable to manipulation. This is how they brainwash people. They also publish self-help books, which again with his motivations in life, I doubt Bono will have time to fit in auditing and dienetic tests.

3/Scientologists believe that all physical eliments are actually the result of a "damaged spirit". Now imagine this bitch trying to convince Edge that his daughter will be better practising scientology courses. He would be furious! Many scientologists have died of cancer that's been left untreated because they believed dianetics will cure them. Some have even stopped taking out medical insurance after they've joined the cult

4/Although Adam is not a Christian (I think I heard somewhere he is getting into Asian religions, but I could be wrong), I think he'd laugh off any theory about the engrams of murdered thetans that are hidden in his unconscious mind. All 4 of them would.

5/Cults target those who are vulnerable and are going through a low period in their life. Adam has been there, now he's happier than he's ever been and is about to settle down. Bono knows exactly what he's aims are in life, he's plans do not include scientology. Edge and his family are going through a traumatic time, but he's no idiot. He gets his strengh from his family, friends and CHRISTAIN faith, not some kooked up cult based on a 1930's sci-fi novel. As for Larry, out of the 4 of them, he's the last guy you'd expect to put up with any mumbo jumbo. But I really don't think any of them will have any patience of being preached to by anyone, let alone a loony witch like this women.
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No offense but what is the point of this thread?

I mean the premise of "she's going after them" is all based on rumor and speculation...

Why come up with reasons as to why it wouldn't happen?
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Old 05-28-2006, 06:04 PM   #3
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It was written by people on alt.religion.scientology in google. A few years back scientologists tried to get this group shut down because of the criticism by many people in this group. They appear to be suspiscious of the sect's motives by prominant members. Many of them view Tom Cruise to be uncarring and hypocritical.
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It was written by people on alt.religion.scientology in google.
What was, the rumor or your post?


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A few years back scientologists tried to get this group shut down because of the criticism by many people in this group. They appear to be suspiscious of the sect's motives by prominant members. Many of them view Tom Cruise to be uncarring and hypocritical.
Ok but what does this have to do with U2?
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What the hell?

Is every thread that someone doesn't think belongs in another forum going to start getting dumped in PLEBA now? This is the third or fourth time this has happened in the past couple of weeks.

Just because I enjoy checking out the latest U2 photos, does that mean I also have to deal with off the wall/off topic comments rejected from somewhere else?

If it doesn't belong in The Goal Is Soul, then what about FYI? Just because the original poster took up all that space explaining why each individual member of U2 would not succumb to Scientology, I'd hope the thought process went a little deeper than: Ooh, individual members, it must belong in PLEBA.

Every damn forum on this website discusses individual members at some point.

I would respectfully like the mods to please explain the new philosophy behind transferring generally unwanted crap into this forum. Sorry if I sound harsh but this is a very unwelcome trend, and I know there are others who share that point of view.

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You do realize it was moved from and not to PLEBA?
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I would respectfully like the mods to please explain the new philosophy behind transferring generally unwanted crap into this forum. Sorry if I sound harsh but this is a very unwelcome trend, and I know there are others who share that point of view.

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Thanks, Daisy.

It's an interesting idea (although "this bitch" in question is Jenna Elfman, who has never appeared to be anything of the sort) but it doesn't belong in PLEBA.
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You do realize it was moved from and not to PLEBA?
No, I didn't, and I apologize.

In my defense, it isn't marked clearly to indicate which way it was moved, and PLEBA has in fact, often been a "dumping ground" quite frequently as I indicated.

But in this particular case, I am in error. Sorry.
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You do realize it was moved from and not to PLEBA?
I didn't see this before jumping in and agreeing with Daisy.

This is probably a stupid question, but if it was moved from PLEBA, why is it still showing up here?
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I didn't see this before jumping in and agreeing with Daisy.

This is probably a stupid question, but if it was moved from PLEBA, why is it still showing up here?
That's how moved threads work...
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I didn't see this before jumping in and agreeing with Daisy.

This is probably a stupid question, but if it was moved from PLEBA, why is it still showing up here?
So anyone looking for it in it's original spot can find it. Saves the mods from being inundated with complaints about threads being "deleted" when they were merely moved.
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It's an interesting idea (although "this bitch" in question is Jenna Elfman, who has never appeared to be anything of the sort)
Yeah, she's just a fan...She is a scientologist, but isn't a nutty one like Cruise (and didn't he and Bono share a podium at an awards show a few years back? They didn't get to them then, now did they? )


Truth is, some of the anti-scientologists are just as paranoid as the Scientology leadership (of course, being sued and all that by the church on a regular basis helps fuel the paranoia )--so a simple action such a leading a standing ovation will be misinterpreted as a conspiracy.
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Truth is, some of the anti-scientologists are just as paranoid as the Scientology leadership (of course, being sued and all that by the church on a regular basis helps fuel the paranoia )--so a simple action such a leading a standing ovation will be misinterpreted as a conspiracy.
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Jenna Elfman does has been acting nuts recently. She's on the same level as Tom, OT7, which is the second highest level. Apparantly Tom tried to recruit Scarlet Johansson before he 'got to' Katie Holmes.

There is an interesting link which states why this cult targets Hollywood Celebs and how they are treated differently from any other members
http://www.xs4all.nl/~fishman/fable.htm

It's a very long web page, it will be better if they published this information as a book. I found it interesting until I got to section 2 when they start spouting off about how the political and financial worlds a secular, meaning they are a front for the devil and their aim is to take over the world. I'm really getting bored with these NWO conspiracy's of late.
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