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Old 03-18-2002, 01:19 PM   #1
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Incorporating U2 into praise/worship...

I posted this in Even Better Than The Real Thing but since that place is usually dead, I figured I'd post over here as well...since this forum brings most of the religious folks together anyway....

Back home I play w/ a praise/worship type of group. Most often we find our selves playing to churches in the area but there are occassions where we do play out. I'm trying to shake things up a bit and break the mold of the standard sing-a-long praise and worship music. Hopefully allowing us to offer people something that other praise bands don't. So...I've decided to try and put a few U2 tunes together as part of this. I've even thought about Joy from Mick Jagger's CD. Initial U2 songs I've considered are Gloria, 40, Where The Streets Have No Name, and I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For. For the most part we would be playing some sort of an acoustic arrangement for the songs. I was just curious if anyone had any thoughts on the songs I've picked or suggestion about others.

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Walk On would be great!
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I would try One, and maybe Wake Up Dead Man (instrumental, maybe the lyrics are too heavy)
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I would try One, and maybe Wake Up Dead Man (instrumental, maybe the lyrics are too heavy)
The song is beautiful...but the idea of praise/worship is to uplift people in some way...not make them want to blow their heads off.

Thanks for all of the suggestions. I'd like to hear from madelyniris, anyone know how to get him in here?

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i'll hunt through my old emails for his addy and give him a heads-up.
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Yes, my wife and I do play in a pretty intense p/w band at our church.

40 works pretty good. I know many big churches that have done it. You can't go wrong with 40.

But most other U2 songs aren't exactly p/w songs. For it to really work as a congregational p/w they need to be -

1) easy to sing
2) short on words
3) catchy melody (easy to remember - not too complicated)
4) short (relatively speaking)

So where does that leave us?

What we have done though, and it seems to work out really well, is including bits of U2 songs inside of well known p/w songs. Something Bono does well too. For the people that catch on, it's really a great experience. We like to do that with Drowning Man a lot.

P/W really is a totally different genre. Everyone's doing it now a days (CCM recording artists) which is starting to make me a bit supsicious. I find that records like October are more pure, even though the don't fit the modern p/w scheme. Delirous' first records are like that too. It was pure.

I've played around with 'adapting' U2 songs into a p/w type of setting, and I think that this can work - but it requires some editing and arranging, but I was really amazed at the outcome.

Sounds like a good, full blown project. Now we just have to get U2's permission.

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Perhaps I was slightly off base w/ my original topic. We are mostly a p/w type of band, but we also play a number of "performance" pieces...i.e. songs that aren't intended to be sing along. This aspect of our group is where I thought the U2 songs would fit the best. I realize that most people are not going to be able to catch onto the melody of Gloria or some of the other songs, but they don't necessarily have to. Am I making sense?

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Old 03-19-2002, 03:23 AM   #8
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My church did a sorta rock concert with mainstream Christian music as an evangelical rally. They had songs like "Lovesong For A Saviour" from Jars Of Clay "My Friend"/"Time" from DC Talk.

I think U2's "With Or Without You" would be nice.

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My church did a sorta rock concert with mainstream Christian music as an evangelical rally. They had songs like "Lovesong For A Saviour" from Jars Of Clay "My Friend"/"Time" from DC Talk.

I think U2's "With Or Without You" would be nice.

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We do a version of "Flood" by Jars of Clay as a matter of fact...

The only problem I see with WOWY is that too many people would mistake it for a silly love song. I don't think too many people would make the connection that she=God/Holy Spirit or whatever your personal take is. I know that pretty much every casual U2 fan I know thinks that it's a love song.

But thank you both very much for your suggestions...Walk On could work. Keep 'em coming!

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ooh, someone get Mark (madelyniris) in here quick. I know for a fact that he does worship/praise stuff and that he manages to use U2 for it sometimes.

My suggestions...
-Rejoice
-Surrender
-A Sort of Homecoming
-Mysterious Ways (assuming your audience is open-minded enough. lol)
-The First Time (would work great just as an acoustic piece even)
-WILATW
-Walk On
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Old 03-19-2002, 03:40 AM   #11
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What about The First Time? That would be beautiful. I'm not sure about "and I threw away the key", though.

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Old 03-19-2002, 03:54 AM   #12
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In addition to the others suggested, how about All I Want Is You?

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Old 03-19-2002, 10:23 PM   #13
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Third Day does this song called Turn Your Eyes Upon Jesus medley, and right in the middle of the song it breaks into....And you give yourself away, And you give yourself away, and you give, and you give, and you give yourself away.

It also has can't help falling in love and turn your eyes upon jesus, but it is cool that is has wowy

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what about a couple from the MDH ST?

Never let me Go
Falling at your Feet
The first Time

maybe even Stateless...

I'd LOVE it if any U2 song was played at my church...I'd prolly bawl my eyes out!
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Old 03-20-2002, 01:53 AM   #15
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Mysterious Ways has been mentioned and I think that would be a good "performance" piece. Hopefully the audience will realize that the song is about the Holy Spirit.

Grace would be another suggestion, though it's not as well known.

On a related note, the main riff in Bad (as well as the chorus) can be played as a lead line to the song "Father of Lights" (if played in A). Try it; the timing and chords are uncannily similar.
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I think we need to be careful when we talk about incorporating U2 music into worship. For one we need to ask ourselves which songs did Bono write to truly worship God. When we talk about a worship song, there is no vagueness, no need for interpretations, or even contradictions which Bono likes to write in. Worship songs are pure and simple in Who they are written for. Also, I'm not sure about pulling snippets out of songs, almost out of context, and try and conform them to the worship of God. Also, an audience should never have to realize that a certain song is about God or the Holy Spirit, again washed in vagueness. So, to me, very few of U2's song would fit in their entirity into a worship service. The obvious ones mentioned are of course 'Gloria', 'Rejoice', and '40', and possibly snippets of other songs that have been mentioned as well, because they talk about a person in the midst of worship even if through struggle.

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As I said in an earlier post, not all of the music we play is intended to be "worship" music. I think that a portion of U2's catalogue would fit nicely in a religious environment. I personally think that a break from the sometimes monotonous theme of "I Love Jesus" that a lot of p/w songs are victim of is a good thing. Not that there's anything wrong w/ this theme, don't take me the wrong way...but variety is a good thing.

Also, somewhat ambigous songs would be more apt to bring in listeners who may not be from a religious background.

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Third Day does this song called Turn Your Eyes Upon Jesus medley, and right in the middle of the song it breaks into....And you give yourself away, And you give yourself away, and you give, and you give, and you give yourself away.

It also has can't help falling in love and turn your eyes upon jesus, but it is cool that is has wowy

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I just downloaded a live version (don't know if that's the one you were referring to)...it was amazing! Definitely going to work on using this one. Thanks a lot for the heads up.



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Old 03-21-2002, 11:06 PM   #19
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how could I forget to mention one of my favorite early U2 songs: Scarlet. It's short, but the purity of Bono singing "rejoice" over and over is so moving...plus it's easy to sing along to!
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Well after going through my U2 cds...here are the songs I've decided to bring to the group and see what they think:

- I Will Follow
- Gloria
- Tomorrow
- October
- Drowning Man
- 40
- 11 O'Clock Tick Tock
- Where The Streets Have No Name
- I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
- In God's Country***
- The First Time
- Walk On (Hallelujah Mix)

***Anyone ever hear Caedman's Call's cover of In God's Country...it's not too shabby.

I'm also going to have them listen to Third Day's "Turn Your Eyes Upon Jesus." That way we get a little WOWY action!

Thanks for all of the suggestions and comments.

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