The Fiddler
The Fly
Are they 6 dayers or theistic evolutionists?
rihannsu said:I don't think they've ever said anything specific on that but look at the lyrics to Wild Honey. To me that song says God there during evolution too. I've never understood what the big deal is because for me nothing about evolution in any way disproves God, it just means he doesn't micromanage.
Dana
pattip2000 said:
but in Wake Up Dead Man they say:
"Your father, He made the world in seven
He's in charge of heaven"
so... I don't know, like you said, it doesn't really matter.
rihannsu said:but look at the lyrics to Wild Honey. To me that song says God there during evolution too.
I've never understood what the big deal is because for me nothing about evolution in any way disproves God, it just means he doesn't micromanage.
Dana
pattip2000 said:
but in Wake Up Dead Man they say:
"Your father, He made the world in seven
He's in charge of heaven"
pattip2000 said:*note to self: don’t take theology lessons from Bono*
The Fiddler said:
Hence why I specifically asked about THEISTIC evolution and not just evolution on its own. Theistic evolution is God driven evolution
It's not a big deal and I wasn't trying to disprove God or anyone's belief therein hence my intentional use of the word Theistic.
Theistic Evolution is a common Christian stance
BonosSaint said:Then, the title "Original of the Species" is a takeoff on Charles Darwin's "Origin of the Species".
I'm not pretending to know or speculate anything about U2's theology. Just pointing out another evolution reference.
Irvine511 said:seems to me that "wild honey" is pro-evolution and explicitly states that homo sapiens are descendents of another sapien species who swung down from the trees. Bono even admits that he was once a monkey.
so i think this means he's not a Christian.
finally, the truth is out.
The Fiddler said:
Nothing could be further from the truth.
Pro Evolution does not equal Anti Christian.
Many Christians are Theistic Evolutionists, that is they believe that God plays a role in the evolutionary process.
Irvine511 said:
nope. either the Bible is true, or you're wrong.
it was 7 days. full stop. Jesus rode around on dinosaurs. carbon dating is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on humanity.
Irvine511 said:nope. either the Bible is true, or you're wrong.
it was 7 days. full stop.
Was that what they were called, I thought they were called donkeys, ah well I learn something new every dayJesus rode around on dinosaurs.
You'll be able to substantiate that claim then, with realiable evidence?carbon dating is the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on humanity.
The Fiddler said:
You'll be able to substantiate that claim then, with realiable evidence?
Irvine511 said:
Irvine511 said:you do know i'm completely fooling around, don't you?
Irvine511 said:i'm passionately agnostic, i just get irritated when people try to claim U2 as their "own" kind of Christian and search through lyrics and interviews for some offhanded comment that can be twisted to formulate support for whatever brand of Christianity they've already purchased.
that said, "wild honey" is clealry pro-evolution.
coemgen said:I can't blame Christians of various kinds to try to identify with him.
sulawesigirl4 said:
Sure, but why does identifying so often end up being co-opting. I say, let the man say what's on his mind and agree or disagree as you will, but we'd all be better off to respect that even within the umbrella called "Christian" there is going to be (and should be) diversity of views. That's part of what believing in the whole Jesus/God thing entails, doesn't it? Freedom of choice/will/opinion, etc.? Unfortunately, there seems to be a very vocal strain of religiousness (I wouldn't even deign to call it Christianity) that has to have all the answers and if someone doesn't have word-for-word answers that match ours then they're by default not in our club. Thus all the speculation over Bono's faith. Is he in our club or not? Did he give all the right answers?
coemgen said:
I don't like this either.
However, it's an even bigger stretch to say Bono isn't a Christian. Considering this, I can't blame Christians of various kinds to try to identify with him.
Irvine511 said:, i just get irritated when people try to claim U2 as their "own" kind of Christian
sulawesigirl4 said:
Did he give all the right answers?