Are you a Virgin?

The friendliest place on the web for anyone that follows U2.
If you have answers, please help by responding to the unanswered posts.

Are you a Virgin?

  • Yes

    Votes: 98 50.0%
  • No

    Votes: 91 46.4%
  • Does it count if it was w/ my blow-up doll?

    Votes: 1 0.5%
  • Depends on who's asking

    Votes: 6 3.1%

  • Total voters
    196
RavenStar said:
Yes Basstrap, I am only 15 but looking (and thinking aboot) at a certain guy makes age suck. Isn't there some law saying you cant have sex until yer 16? I don't see why I should care about the law though, it's never stopped me before and it never will. Basstrap, yer 21 is there anything stopping you(If you dont mind me asking)? I'm surprised at the types of peole who are virgins at my school. Almost everyone you think would not be a virgin seems to be and vice-versa. I don't see why people value it so much though. It's not life changing(from what my best friend told me, and she would know).

15 is too young...that's my opinion. Of course if you have the uncaring attitude you seem to have towards it then it wouldn't matter, but I see it as an incredibly special thing I will not not just go out and do it with whoever.
It is a way to create a beautiful bond, and that is why I think it works best within marriage,
But there are times when it seems to work outside...for very very mature people.

And is there anything stopping me?
the absence of anything resembling a girlfriend could be a key factor.
 
That is a factor Basstrap. I wouldn't call my attitude uncaring though...I just don't see why being a virgin is such a big deal.
 
RavenStar said:
That is a factor Basstrap. I wouldn't call my attitude uncaring though...I just don't see why being a virgin is such a big deal.

If you respected your body i think you would think being a virgin is a big deal!

There are many aspects to losing your virginity to think about- i think its a big deal and i dont plan on having sex with someone until i am married or very much in love.

I respect my body and dont want to have sex with someone who just wants to use me and end up regretting it- i also dont want to rick getting pregnant- yes i am aware you can prevent it but id want to be v.careful-and i dont want to run the risk of getting any STI's

I dont think its just a physical thing either im sure theres a lot of emotional stuff to deal with too- of course im still a virgin but id like someone who isnt opinion on wether it is v.emotional or not- but imo i think it would be
 
RavenStar said:
The problem with waiting untill yer married is that you may never know if thats exactly what you were looking for.

I doubt a marital relationship isnt just based around sex-it isnt everything- i agree with basstrap you do *SEEM* to have a very uncaring attitude

You love the person you marry....end of story imo
 
My bestfriend is an outlaw then! Lol, not quite. I respect my body very much so. To me, sex is for 2 things: pleasure(fun) and reproduction. You don't need to be in love for those things to happen. I'm sure that being in love might make the experience better, but what if you never fall in love, what if you do fall in love and your mate dies or something? Then what, more than likely you will never love again, and in this case(wating until you are in love) would leave you a virgin for the rest of your life. I don't want to die a virgin.
 
wow......i wasn'y really expecting it to be that close. not that being a virgin is a bad thing cause it's definately not but it's weird that so many people said that they were.

a lot of people find it embarassing to say that they are a virgin, which i don't understand cause it's nothing to be embarassed about. i think it's kinda nice....whether you're saving yourself for marriage or just the right person.

sex is much too important to just do it with anyone just for the sake of losing one's viginity. as you might have guessed from the last statement i'm not a big fan of one night stands either.....virgin or not.
 
RavenStar said:
My bestfriend is an outlaw then! Lol, not quite. I respect my body very much so. To me, sex is for 2 things: pleasure(fun) and reproduction. You don't need to be in love for those things to happen. I'm sure that being in love might make the experience better, but what if you never fall in love, what if you do fall in love and your mate dies or something? Then what, more than likely you will never love again, and in this case(wating until you are in love) would leave you a virgin for the rest of your life. I don't want to die a virgin.

Ok Im sure there are plenty more other ways of having fun than sex

why would you be thinking of reproduction when your only 15 is it??


I know you dont have to be in love but just say you go around having sex with lots of people now because you think "its not that big of a deal" and "you dont have to be in love to have sex" and then you meet this man who thinks you are wonderful and says he wants to stay a virgin until he is married but then you tell him that you have had lots of sex with other people before- if that was me i would feel embarrassed and ashamed cus i was jsut "having a bit o fun" and would feel i had let this guy down in a way. I think its nive to have respect and save yourself for a special person.
 
I would never feel ashamed for having some fun. If the guy was right for me he would understand this.
And who says I'm thinking about reproduction? I never plan on having kids anyway. I'd rather adopt.
 
example : my uncle all his life , he was living ala student style ( he is 36 now ) , partys , endless girls , fun etc , so he never got into trouble with sudden pregnancy , so at the age 36 he suddenly discovers that he can't have children , so his girlfriend have a baby now ( she 's 22 or 25 and a real student ) and they are getting married , starting a family . and it's not his baby .
 
pinkfloyd said:
example : my uncle all his life , he was living ala student style ( he is 36 now ) , partys , endless girls , fun etc , so he never got into trouble with sudden pregnancy , so at the age 36 he suddenly discovers that he can't have children , so his girlfriend have a baby now ( she 's 22 or 25 and a real student ) and they are getting married , starting a family . and it's not his baby .

Thats v.common these days- my uncle is married & one of the children isnt his
 
You know... Ive had too many people in my life become complete whores because they thought itd be nice to have recreational sex whenever they wanted. I wont get into it great detail, because I know that no ammount of bitching from anyone here, i.r.l., or otherwise is going to change someones mind. If thats what they wanna do, theyre gonna do it no matter what. But heres my attitude, youve been warned of the consequences, you chose to ignore the wiser crowd, you chose to ignore what was in your best intrest, so Im just gonna kick back and laugh my ass off at your pitiful soul for literally fucking yourself into a personal hell. Youll find no compassion from me for your mistakes. When you regret it, which you will if you dont make the right choice, you have noone to blame but yourself, and if you try to go back and bitch to your friends about how everything wasnt what you expected and how you wish you hadnt done it, I wholeheartedly hope they dont give a rats ass, because you and you alone are responsible for your own actions. Dont listen to what other people tell you is right, your parents teach you your morals, and by the time youre 16 -hence the law- you should be mature enough to be able to weigh the consequences of an action to the point that you can make a concious choice based on your morals. Your parents teach you these morals, and you know what you feel is right versus what you feel is wrong, your parents influence can only go so far though because again, its ultimately your choice, however, if you start listening to your 'all-knowing' friends and letting them pressure you, let them brainwash you into doing things you dont know whether or not you want... well then just how responsible are you? My major beef with kids is they think theyre fucking kings of the world, that they know everything, that no matter what life throws at them they can handle it. At the age of 14? 15? 16? Youve gotta be kidding me. Id like to see a 15 year old try to raise a kid properly, completely independant from the support of their parents. Id like to see that same kid make their life into a success, independant from their parents. Id bet a million to one that it cant be done. A 15 year old kid does not have the worldly knowlege to bring a good outcome to that situation. Hence the law. Mind you, a 16 year old isnt any better, 18 at least, 20 or 22 maybe, but realistically the government cant tell people not to have sex before 22 because thered be hellish ammounts of criminal activity goin on if you know what I mean.

But really... Your friends think they know what theyre talking about, but theyre just conforming to what everything around them is saying. Keep in mind, just because everyone is doing it, doesnt make it right. I understand being curious, cuz I am too, Im only 17, Im a kid still too, I dont know what Im doing with my life, but that being said, Im - as far as Ive been told - 1, mature for my age, and 2, have a very high potential mental capacity. What does that mean? Very little, because the more you think you know, the more you realise you dont know shit. The desicion to have sex is a major one, it involves a lot of personal responsibility, which you may think you have - and yah, you might, but you might not - It involves a lot of emotions - whether you convince yourself theyre there or not is a completely different issue. Choosing to have recreational sex after youve lost your virginity is one thing, because you have a little more experiance, and youre probably a little wiser and less likely to fuck up your life. But, if you make any of these desicions without giving it serious, and I do mean serious thought. You may find yourself in a heap of trouble, no matter how safe you might think you are.


</rant>

>edit<
Ok, so much for not going into great detail... However, I perhaps was unclear at the end and perhaps at the begining. Recreational sex = sex for fun, on a frequent basis. If you do not treat the desicion of whether or not to have sex with respect, youll only hurt yourself, and perhaps someone else who thought that it might mean something. You can tell yourself otherwise, tell yourself that it doesnt matter, remain completely oblivious to the emotional aspect of the act. For a time. How long can you last though? If you have sex and do manage to remain completely seperate from the emotions, how does that fulfil your life? How does it make your life better? How is it fun? How can you justify it over any other form of entertainment? Like really, you want to pass your time getting off, get a vibrator or a porno mag or something, like really, dont bring anyone else into the equation, cuz 2 lives are on the line, not just yours. I reiterate, no matter how safe you might think you are, theres always the chance that a monkey wrench is thrown into the works and oooh somebodys pregnant. Pills - 85%, Condom & spermicide (assuming it doesnt break) - 99%. Youd think thatd be a pretty safe bet, wouldnt you. As someone I know's parents would attest, even that doesnt always work. They had a third kid even though the odds were stacked majorly against any chance of pregnancy, but it still happened. What if you/the person your with happen to be that one in a million? What do you do then?

I dont know how anyone can say they have respect for themselves/their body and make such wreckless uninformed desicions, without loving someone, and without even giving it a second thought. Such respect is superficial at best, just like the majority of todays society. But now, I finally digress.

>/edit & rant #2<
 
Last edited:
My uncle is like Bono , he is sooo cooll , i mean in all styles , his hobby is flying paraplanes and parashutes , he has a beard ala edge and he build , construct , invent and make engines for Boeing 747, 727 etc .
 
pinkfloyd said:
My uncle is like Bono , he is sooo cooll , i mean in all styles , his hobby is flying paraplanes and parashutes , he has a beard ala edge and he build , construct , invent and make engines for Boeing 747, 727 etc .

riiiiiiiiiigght

soooo.....he falls into the non- virgin category I assume
 
~unforgettableFOXfire~,
1. saying that a 15 year-old isnt mature enough to make decisions for them self is ageism. To me, it's the same as saying a female isn't mature enough to make decisions for herself etc.

2. My friend has pressured me into nothing. I asked a bunch of questions (I'm curious), and she answered a few of them. I dont see how that is pressure. And who says she is just conforming to what everyone else is saying? Who says I am conforming to what other are saying? Herd-conformity is not my thing(as some of you may know).

3. Just because I want to lose my virginity doesn't mean I want to lose it today.
4. And if I was one of those people who did get pregnant. Well, I have 3 decisions, I could get an abortion, I could put the child up for adoption, or I could raise the child. One of my friends mother gave birth to her at 16. Her and her boyfriend moved into an apartment and raised the child on their own. My friend's mother is the manager of a local Winners and her husband is a teacher. My friend is on the honour roll and participates in a variety of co-curricular activities. So far, she has had a good life.

5. You can kick back and laugh your ass off at my pitiful soul all you want. It's your time you're wasting.
 
RavenStar said:
~unforgettableFOXfire~,
1. saying that a 15 year-old isnt mature enough to make decisions for them self is ageism. To me, it's the same as saying a female isn't mature enough to make decisions for herself etc.

Ageism? Please tell me you aren't actually serious about that comparison.

Age does have a lot to do with how people think through their decisions. Just as an example, I think you would agree that most 11 year olds lack the proper perspective to realize that the latest greatest toy costs too much and isn't worth it in the long run, despite the fact that s/he made the decision to purchase it with all of the allowance money.

And at what point would this "ageism" kick in? Is it say, once you pass puberty that you become a fully rational being capable of making decisions clearly and with sound logic? Or should we just start a flat rate at say, age 14?

I would say that for many issues, yes, most (not all) 15 year olds aren't mature enough to make the best decisions for themselves. I know that quite a few decisions I made when I was around 14-15-16 were rather poor, despite my having thought them through a lot at the time. You learn a lot in hindsight... :)
 
Diemen said:


You learn a lot in hindsight... :)

True :up:

and its not ageism saying a 15 year old cant choose to have sex- its the law states that you have to be 16-17 here

~unforgettableFOXfire~ had many wise words- i still feel im too young to be involved in a serious relationship nearly everyone of my friends brag about having sex but only few of them have actually done anything- a lot of people in my year have slept with a lot of people- now they jsut have bad reputations and unfortunately in todays society still if a girl sleeps with a lots of guys she'd be referred to as a "slut"- who wants that kind of reputation when your older for something you did when you are about 15?!?!?!

And every single person i have talked to has said if they could change what they did when they were younger they would never have had sex so young.

You say you dont conform to what the crowd to- yeh right!!- I dont care what any of my friends say to me- my friend laughs at me for being "miss innocent" i dont care people can say what they like about me- im not gonna conform to anything anyone tells me and most of my friends arent virgins and i am but i dont care im never gonna change my mind even if they think having sex makes u a much more wiser and mature person but i think i have much more respect for myself, maturity and sense than they have.

And sex isnt just a bit of fun. *IF* you had as much maturity and wisdom as you think you have you would know that risking getting pregnant, catching HIV, STI's STD's is NOT fun at all



:|


:up: UnforgettableFOxfire
 
Thanks Lara (y)

Now then, Ravenstar :) As for ageism... think what you like, but I included myself in with your group, it would seem foolish not to, im only 2 years older and as I said Im really no wiser than you are. It also would seem somewhat foolish to include myself in that list though, yet I did because I dont feel that Im any better off with my whole 2 years more life experiance... 2 years means nothing, we both know it, you dont live for 60, 70, 80 years just to dwell on how 2 years when you were a kid changed your life. The important thing was not how my information was presented, but that it was in fact presented. 90% of the time I present my info in a more harsh manner just so that people will get pissed off and refute my arguments, but in doing so, they remember what I said. Thats all I care about, you be mindful and that you think for yourself. I wasnt out and out calling anyone a whore, save for the ppl I know who actually are. I was sort of accusing you of conforming, yes, but again I dont know who you are or what youre like or what your style is. However, you neglected to mention the first time round that you were asking questions to her, nothing more than she simply said it wasnt worth anything when you were discussing it. But, if the information was there and I misread or neglected to read something, my appologies. From not fitting the mold 9 times outta 10 myself, I know how it can be a little irritating to be called a conformist after all the work you put into trying to avoid being just another clone.

Anyways... its all good, Im simply trying to help guide, but perhaps you dont need it, although that is ponderous that youd post in here, although perhaps you had no intention of people zeroing in on the fact you didnt really care too much and having it snowball into a large advice-giving-fest. Hmm... *thinks*

Salt-n-Peppa lol Lets talk about sex ba-by, lets talk about you an me, lets talk aboutttt sex, lets talk aboutttt sex

lmfao

im really that damn entertained... (y) so little sleep... so... little... *passes out*
 
~unforgettableFOXfire~ said:
Thanks Lara (y)



:ohmy: :ohmy: Msn Msn Msn thats the :up: on msn the wee (y)

I always think its good to have a wee discussion here and view everybody elses opinions- i loike it anyway!
 
~unforgettableFOXfire~ said:
I wasnt out and out calling anyone a whore, save for the ppl I know who actually are.

I'd be interested in knowing what your definition of a whore is. Pretty strong words and from such a bitter boy.
 
Well actually, in my simplest terms, I consider anyone who sells themself out to be a whore. Technically, my friend Jordan is a whore, not because he sleeps with lots of women, but because hes the biggest poser in the world. It comes down to two things, self respect/acceptance, and staying true to your values. Having no self respect doesnt make you a whore unless you manifest it in something like screwing around with as many people as you can. The bottom line is that I consider a whore someone who cant be trusted. If theyre not themselves, youve been getting to know a guise and not the real person, if they make it their goal in life to screw around with as many people as Magic Johnson, or Gene Simmons, then how can you possibly trust them? If you get into a relationship with someone like that, if you truly care about them, you still have no guaruntee that they arent going to do things behind your back, because thats in their nature. If your values say have sex with as many people as possible, thats completely different from pretending youre something you arent, then youre a slut/whore, but then again if youre in fact a slut you probably wont care what others think.

I try not to be so harsh when it comes to dealing out whore/slut in the sexual context, my definition is a little more specific. If you had sex with 3 people in your entire life, well no, I dont call people whores for that, because people make mistakes. The people I was referring to as whores in my life are those who go to the mall, pick up guys, and go home and fool around wtih them on a frequent basis, guys they dont know at all and 95% of the time dont remember names. The people I was referring to are the ones who make it their goal in highschool to fuck as many guys and as many different types of guys as they possibly can. And yes, the ones Im referring to are also the ones who have 3 boyfriends in a month, fuck all of them, and then are single for another 6 months. When I said 3 in you entire life, I meant on a spread-out basis. If youre a 15 year old girl, as one of the cases Im referring to is, and you have sex with 3 people in your life, thats a lot. But if youve had relationships of some respectable length to go along wtih a couple of those, maybe a mistake, I wont barate you and call you a whore for it. If however, you have sex with 3 guys within the same month, I dont give a flying fuck whether or not youre single for the next 6 months or even 2 years, I still think thats an incredibly whore-ish thing to do, and sure, I can forgive it at some point, but theres really no excuse for it. Theres no excuse for not thinking. Do you ever think about how itll be when youre grown, and youre reminiscing about highschool with your 30something friends, and you all recall how much of a whore you were at some point? No, I dont think anyone really wants to be a part of that. Then again, maybe Im just naive, maybe thats what everyone wants, perhaps Im the bitter cynic stuck to my 'old fashioned' ways.


Now, I refered to women mostly, but instead of getting all uptight about that, Ill just let you in on a little secret as to why I didnt talk about guys. The reason, guys I know arent whores. All of my friends are geeks like me, losers, outcasts, you think any of us could get laid even if we wanted to? Ya right. I have 2 friends thatve had sex, Matt, whos been in a relationship for more than a year, and Adam, who got it from his girlfriend who turned out to be a slut or so he says, but since I hate him, dont trust him, I dont believe him for a second, and even if he did, I still absolve him from it because hes only had it from one person, sometime last year.


Its quantity versus time basically, but its how you go about it, there are some cases where people have been with a few guys in 6 months but done so in a fashion that I deemed legitimate and thereby didnt/wouldnt start calling them whores. Its a case by case thing. But I hope thats answered your question.
 
Well.... thank-you for your time FoxFire. One more thing.... and this is not in anyway to belittle you or your opinions, because we are all entitled to have our own beliefs etc... but please tell me as a 17 year old guy... you find time to have fun.
 
No, I cant say that its a large occurance in my life... I can talk as much as I want on an informal web forum where noone knows me, but Im generally nowhere near this talkative irl. My shyness, coupled with my inability to fight with people -or as i see it, inconvenience them-, plus my social status/stigma of being a loser/geek... I dont get out much... I spend most of my time alone, and Ive been pretty much rejected by the world, and yah it kills me but Ive tried to change it and it just fucks things up... I dunno... I do have fun, my friends are the only people who are tolerant of who I am, and yeah I have fun with them, but Im capable of so much more and I just cant get there and its very frustrating... To be quite honest I hate my life, I hate who I am, and I hate the world around me because it conflicts so greatly with the way I think it should be, Ive watched everything go to hell around me... I just... I dunno... I have self awareness, and thats part of the whole problem, I know who I am, I know where I stand, I know how I want to live, I know what I like and dont like... But I can honestly say I dont know how to be happy... its just been so long since Ive truly truly been happy... But we arent here to analyze my life, so Im just gonna shut up before this becomes a psychological inquisition of proportions the likes of which I hope I never have to deal with.
 
FoxFire --> I truly believe there is no such thing as a loser or a geek. We are all different. No one is better than another. Some people just think they are, and they will learn life that they are wrong.
You seem like a smart guy... and hopefully will figure things out someday in order to find happiness. Anyway, it just saddens me to see someone so angry and resentful at such a young age. I think maybe I was a bit like you then too, but once you learn to like yourself... things will change and I don't mean just saying you like yourself, but really liking yourself. It will open up a world of possibilities.

If you want a new friend.... you can always PM me.
 
Its hard to loike yourself when you are 17- i dont like myself but im not bitter and resentful- im always quite happy :D
 
I still dont understand why you think I conform. I've wanted to lose my virginity long before my friend lost hers. I know of 2 people in my school who arent virgins and only one of them is my friend. If anything, I would be conforming by being a virgin. My friend has never pressured me into anything bad. We share the same beliefs and everything. She understands where I am coming from, and vise-versa.
Please explain how this is conforming.
 
I just wanted to jump in to add that foxfire is not a geek but a terribly smart and funny guy that I am priveleged to be acquainted with. ((((foxfire))))
 
RavenStar said:
I still dont understand why you think I conform. I've wanted to lose my virginity long before my friend lost hers. I know of 2 people in my school who arent virgins and only one of them is my friend. If anything, I would be conforming by being a virgin. My friend has never pressured me into anything bad. We share the same beliefs and everything. She understands where I am coming from, and vise-versa.
Please explain how this is conforming.


Please tell me where exactly I said you were a conformist and maybe Ill explain, but if youre just putting words in my mouth I really am not in the mood for any games. As far as I can recall, I said something along the lines of doing something because youre friends are doing it, or doing it because you want to be cool, doing it to conform is a bad thing to do, thinking for yourself is good. I believe I went on to say good for you that youre thinking for yourself. How that equates to me calling you a conformist I dont know, want me to dumb it down a shade? You think for self = good :up:, you listening to others and doing as they do without giving it a second thought = bad :down:. Dont give me any of that anticonformist bullshit that someones conforming to being a virgin. Like damn, we're all born human, I guess we're conforming, oh la dee da... :mad:

I have not had a good day... my appologies... Im going to go somewhere else now...
 
sulawesigirl4 said:
I just wanted to jump in to add that foxfire is not a geek but a terribly smart and funny guy that I am priveleged to be acquainted with. ((((foxfire))))

Thank you darling sula... (((sula))) good luck with your exam, my internet is working off and on cuz of this rain, and alas I keep getting d/ced from my IMs.
 
Back
Top Bottom