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Old 08-13-2013, 08:50 PM   #46
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I got the chance to see Sam Kinison in 1990. He performed at the Nassau Coliseum. He was touring to support his Leader of the Banned album. They put a curtain down the middle of the place. There were only a few thousand people there. His big segment was calling a dude's ex girlfriend/wife, reminding her how much of a cheating/using whore she was and then having the dude tell her off in the most profane way. He performed some songs as well. He had some dude who looked like a cross between Stevie Ray Vaughn and Jimi Hendrix perform too. Howard Stern also showed up. He and Sam were in the middle of feuding with Andrew "Dice" Clay and had some fun things to say about him.


Several months later in the Fall of 1990, I went and saw Andrew "Dice" Clay at the Coliseum as well. This was when Dice was white hot. The place was sold out. The crowd, as you would expect, was pretty rowdy. Someone threw an M80 from the upper level and it exploded in mid air over the crowd. My most vivid memory were the lines in the bathroom. There were mostly men at the show so the lines in the mens room were so long that guys were lining up to piss in the sink. Ahh, the memories.
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Old 08-15-2013, 11:37 AM   #47
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Saw Kinison back then as well, at Great Woods amphitheater. He was good. Never saw Dice.
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I've always wondered what he's like live... His stand-up bits on Seinfeld were never really that funny taken on their own.
I used to feel the same way re: the bits on the show, but I saw him at Caesars years ago and it was fantastic.
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Seinfeld is too clean for my taste. But Kinison and Dice Clay don't do it for me either
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Seinfeld is too clean for my taste. But Kinison and Dice Clay don't do it for me either

It sucked that Sam died early in his comedy career. He was on the verge of evolving as a comedian. Dice was content with his nursery rhymes and jokes about women. By the time I was 20 or so, I was no longer a fan of his act.
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It sucked that Sam died early in his comedy career. He was on the verge of evolving as a comedian. Dice was content with his nursery rhymes and jokes about women. By the time I was 20 or so, I was no longer a fan of his act.
That's pretty much my problem with Dice too. When you put on a show and 3/4 of the audience finishes the punch lines it unison, it's time to do something different.
Maybe I've just never given Kinison a chance, but it always just seemed like a lot of yelling and little more. I get that he kinda changed the way stand up comedy was done, but sometimes the ones at the forefront of the shifts aren't necessarily the best at doing it. Any Kinison stuff you can post to change my mind?
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Well something I could recommend for you would be his first HBO special which I think was from 1986. It features material from his first album, Louder Than Hell. That album was arguably his best.
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I'll see what I can find from it. Thanks man
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You're welcome! Good luck.
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What do people think of anti-comedy? Comedy where the humour comes from the staged awkwardness, awful jokes, intentional mishaps, flubbed audience interaction, etc. I've become a huge fan of it. My two favourite exponents of it at the moment, Sam Simmons and Lessons With Luis (both Australian) are putting on vital, creative shows all the time.
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You mean like Steven Wright? Because he's one funny mofo.

Steven Wright on Letterman: 1990 - YouTube
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Anti-Comedy is probably closer to Andy Kauffman than Steven Wright. Wright just had a different style. He never pissed off the audience.
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I've seen Wright twice and he's hilarious, don't think Anti-Comedy is the right description, just a different approach.
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What do people think of anti-comedy? Comedy where the humour comes from the staged awkwardness, awful jokes, intentional mishaps, flubbed audience interaction, etc. I've become a huge fan of it. My two favourite exponents of it at the moment, Sam Simmons and Lessons With Luis (both Australian) are putting on vital, creative shows all the time.
I enjoy this type of thing. I find some non knock knock jokes to be hilarious

Knock Knock
Who's there?
Desi Arnaz
Desi Arnaz who?
Desi Arnaz Jr

Knock Knock
Who's there?
JFK
JFK who?
JFK jr

They're so fucking terrible that they make me laugh
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What Cobbler was describing reminded me of Steven Wright, that was what I meant.

Obviously for anti-comedy in general, Andy Kaufman is definitely up there...probably the best example.
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