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Old 12-17-2010, 03:28 AM   #556
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Speaking of whitewash, does anyone know how Australian history in schools is being taught these days? I know for a fact that my school just went from Europeans arriving straight to federation and WW1, without a mention of aboriginal genocide or resistance. It wasn't until long after highschool that I first learned about all that stuff, and that was instigated by speaking to a member of the stolen generations.
i can say that the most we ever did on maltreatment of the Abos (to borrow from Python) was watch Rabbit Proof Fence. History stopped for me after year eight (because history = boring, eww), which i now regret quite a bit.

i work in a sheet metal factory by the way, and you should hear the comments flying around about the boat people. one in particular that received a few laughs was "if we just bomb them all, then eventually the remains will solidfy and form an island, then newies can just go there".
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Ugh, I hate it when people use the term "Abo".
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The jailing rate of black males in South Africa at the end of the Apartheid era (1993) was 851 per 100,000 population. In Australia today, we jail black males at a national rate of 4,364 per 100,000. That's over five times higher.

In the Northern Territory, the rate is almost six times higher.

In fact, no state or territory of Australia - not even the ACT - jails black males at a rate less than South Africa under apartheid.

The closest is Tasmania, at 1,169 per 100,000 population.

So Australia's 'best performer' is still almost 30 percent worst than the regime considered the most racist on earth.
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Thank you so much!

The only arguement people can make against this is easily countered by the fact that any problems are a result of introduced western vices like alcohol, gambling etc.
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Wow, what an eye opener.
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The real, obvious question is - why aren't we doing anything about this? The average lifespan for Aboriginal males is worse than in Bangladesh.
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Too busy trying to keep out the friggin' immigints than helping the people already on our soil.
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Watching some movie about Bob Hawke on ch 10. Guessing the budget was in the hundreds!
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That thing premiered some months ago. Meh.
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I'm sure the Rudd/Gillard love caused a bit of gagging over Corn Flakes this morning:

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Also, wow. Reading that again, a lot of that is pretty bare for Bono.
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Meanwhile, The Age has gone and published this opinion piece originally from the Washington Post (complete with prominent homepage billing with a photo of Bono and Bush): Imagine there's no rebels
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Also, wow. Reading that again, a lot of that is pretty bare for Bono.
surprisingly good read, for the most part.

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unsurprisingly yawn-tastic read. the point's getting even more tired than bono banging on about all of the things the article complains about.
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that was actually a really good read - i didn't read any of the political AIDS/Red/One garbage because that doesn't interest me, but the retrospective stuff about coming to Australia, and playing LRM for the first time in 20 years was great. much better than i was expecting.
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surprisingly good read, for the most part.



unsurprisingly yawn-tastic read. the point's getting even more tired than bono banging on about all of the things the article complains about.
Seconded, though I found both articles were poorly focused. Bono was, as always, a bit rambly, and I hate to think how messy that looked before an editor got to it with a red pen judging by his past unedited writings. The other one just seemed to be aimless bitching that didn't seem to justify any of its points. I can pay that there's something to be said for dissidents rather than being buddies with amoral/immoral powerbrokers, but it just seemed to be a plea for simpleton activism.
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