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Old 12-15-2010, 08:09 PM   #541
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And right on cue, WikiLeaks drops this one:

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Heh, as I was reading through this discussion, I was thinking of that article.

The asylum seekers debate in this country makes me simply nauseous, and often embarrassed to hold an Australian passport. The amount of racism, the lack of empathy, and the "I got mine" attitude that was on gross public display during this year's electoral cycle was enough to make me despair. The voices of sanity never really had a chance to be heard, especially since the ALP didn't have the courage to offer up the actual facts or provide a position notably distinct from the Liberals.

I'm so troubled by the latent racism throughout our society. I've been startled by what I've heard even from some left leaning folk, let alone the far right types you'd expect it from. I know a couple of people who refuse to be treated by Indian doctors. It doesn't matter how many qualifications the doctor has or how well-spoken or intelligent they are, these people don't want to be treated simply because the doctor is an Indian (or, y'know, Pakistani or Sri Lankan or whatever, but them's all Induns huh!). Let's just say I've made my thoughts on this very clear to them.
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Old 12-15-2010, 09:10 PM   #542
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it is troubling. i don't think we're the racist country that we get labelled, but by god there are a lot of fucking morons out there who give us that reputation.
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Oh for fuck's sake, can Channel 9 News get any more worthless? Headlines right now, "Christmas Island deaths re-ignite asylum seeker debate" and "the ducks that brought Melbourne to a standstill". Yes, some ducks on a motorway are just as important as a tragic loss of life.
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No! Not the ducks!
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They look so cute when they're waddling across the road in lines.
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Old 12-16-2010, 02:41 AM   #546
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Serves you right for getting you're news from anyone but fairfax (who aren't perfect, but are a lot better)
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Old 12-16-2010, 03:10 AM   #547
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Serves you right for getting you're news from anyone but fairfax (who aren't perfect, but are a lot better)
If I could, I'd make Nine's news bulletins automatically mute when the cricket's on.

Really, the only nightly news worth watching on Aussie TV is SBS's, and even that isn't as good as it used to be. I miss Mary Kostakidis.
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when i went to sydney a few months ago it was strangely reassuring to turn sbs on when i got back in the evening to a foreign film featuring a lot of female frontal nudity.

felt like nothing had ever changed.
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Ahh that shit sells. News ltd don't give a fuck if Fairfax is perceived as better or more respectable, there's a shitload more people buying the Herald Sun (me for one) than The Age.
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I wouldn't dignify the Herald Sun as toilet paper, let alone with my custom.
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i look at it this way: how anyone in any country who isn't part of their country's original race (e.g. native americans, aborigines, maori, etc.) really just needs to stfu about immigrants, refugees, etc. anyone of european descent wouldn't live where they did if someone in their family hadn't moved.

i know i'm preaching to the choir here as everyone thinks that kind of viewpoint is crap, but i felt the need to say it regardless.
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Speaking of whitewash, does anyone know how Australian history in schools is being taught these days? I know for a fact that my school just went from Europeans arriving straight to federation and WW1, without a mention of aboriginal genocide or resistance. It wasn't until long after highschool that I first learned about all that stuff, and that was instigated by speaking to a member of the stolen generations.
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Speaking of whitewash, does anyone know how Australian history in schools is being taught these days? I know for a fact that my school just went from Europeans arriving straight to federation and WW1, without a mention of aboriginal genocide or resistance. It wasn't until long after highschool that I first learned about all that stuff, and that was instigated by speaking to a member of the stolen generations.
Yeah. We go through the basics of WW1 with a basic lead up to the beginning of the war which accounts for about half of the WW1 study with the other half going through Gallipoli. In terms of history at school we only go as far back as federation. One semester of history included federation, WW1, depression, WW2 (in which a large portion was spent on the war effort back home, not that much on Europe bar the bare basics) and the Vietnam War.
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We did a whole unit on the treatment of Aborigines.

It was great, we watched movies and read books on integration, eradication, assimilation and all of the wonderful policies back then!

I am so ashamed sometimes
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Speaking of whitewash, does anyone know how Australian history in schools is being taught these days? I know for a fact that my school just went from Europeans arriving straight to federation and WW1, without a mention of aboriginal genocide or resistance. It wasn't until long after highschool that I first learned about all that stuff, and that was instigated by speaking to a member of the stolen generations.
It doesn't help that the curriculum changes from state to state. Aboriginal history might as well not exist in the Queensland system; I know nothing's changed since I did it, except that now you can opt out of any form of history at the end of year nine rather than year ten, which as a historian breaks my heart.

One of my doctoral supervisors is a prominent Australian historian who has been heavily involved in the creation of a national history curriculum, and inserting Aboriginal history has been extremely difficult - there are so many people who oppose it, and the misrepresentation of the curriculum in the media (both by Fairfax and News Ltd) has been appalling. The moment you try to add any more Aboriginal history, you get accused of "black armband" left wing history that's trying to destroy Australia's national identity and raise a generation of self-loathing students. I'm not even kidding, it's so fucking politicised.

Whenever I read a media report on the national history curriculum, I go through it just thinking "that's not true ... that's not true ... that's not true either".
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