Is it the end of the decade or not?

[BoMac]

We're now at the time of year where best of 2009 and best of the decade lists are coming out.

However, a co-worker and I have had a longstanding debate: does the first decade of the new millenium end on Dec. 31, 2009 or 2010?

I happen to think the latter, just as I thought the new millenium started on Jan. 1, 2001, not the year before, because we start counting from 1, not 0. My co-worker says otherwise.

Any thoughts?

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

It is the end of the decade. Going back it makes sense to say that the 80s were the years from 1980 through 1989. The 90s were the years from 1990 through 1999 and so on. So it would stand to reason that the 2000s are the years from 2000 through 2009.

 

[Jive Turkey]

but then the first decade AD gets ripped off a year

There was no year 0, so you've always completed one year less than the calendar year

This is why I will never accept that Bethshazaar and the Funky Babylonians had the top album of the first decade. The Jephtha Brothers' self titled, released in 10, was far superior

 

[BVS]

but then the first decade AD gets ripped off a year

There was no year 0, so you've always completed one year less than the calendar year

But they had Christ, so who cares?

So technically speaking we had two 1's back to back? Never really thought of that...

 

[Mrs. Garrison]

i guess im a year younger then...

 

[LemonMelon]

I happen to think the latter, just as I thought the new millenium started on Jan. 1, 2001, not the year before, because we start counting from 1, not 0. My co-worker says otherwise.

The 1990s did not start in 1991. Why would the '10s?

 

[GirlsAloudFan]

The 1990s did not start in 1991. Why would the '10s?

Yeah, that's basically how I see it. And you explained it a lot more concisely than I did.

 

[Jive Turkey]

The 1990s did not start in 1991. Why would the '10s?

But thats what I'm saying. if you go back to the very beginning of our calendar, it actually did start on a 1. the year 1 was the first year of the first decade. When we completed one full year, it turned to year 2 and so forth. There was no first year that was year 0. Follow that forward a 2000 years and the 200th decade, in fact, started at 2001. Technically, the turn of the millennium happened on January 1st, 2001, not when everyone went ape shit and celebrated it

 

[Jive Turkey]

i guess im a year younger then...

nope, because when you were born, then didnt say you were one. You had a complete year of being referred to in months. once you completed your first year, then you were officially 1. Doesnt work that way with calendar years

 

[LemonMelon]

But thats what I'm saying. if you go back to the very beginning of our calendar, it actually did start on a 1. the year 1 was the first year of the first decade. Follow that forward a 2000 years and the 200th decade, in fact, started at 2001

This makes the decade suffixes completely worthless then: 80s, 90s, 00s, etc. It's much easier/more convenient to just screw the first decade over and leave it to 9 years. Of course, if Jesus agreed, he could have had Tebow jump pass the space-time continuum and placed it in the mind of Dionysius Exiguus to invent year zero so we could avoid this conversation and read Pitchfork lists without further guilt. Just the same, 2010 is a new decade. Fact. No doubt.

 

[u2popmofo]

It's the end of the decade for YOU, BoMac.

 

[Jive Turkey]

This makes the decade suffixes completely worthless then: 80s, 90s, 00s, etc. It's much easier/more convenient to just screw the first decade over and leave it to 9 years. Of course, if Jesus agreed, he could have had Tebow jump pass the space-time continuum and placed it in the mind of Dionysius Exiguus to invent year zero so we could avoid this conversation and read Pitchfork lists without further guilt. Just the same, 2010 is a new decade. Fact. No doubt.

your suffixes make the baby Jesus cry and the people from the first decade feel like shit

And yes, it is easier that way. I wouldnt be the retard who refers to anything that happened in 2000 as the 90s. I was just saying that technically, it is part of the 190th decade, so if it was for money, Bomac should be crossing his coworker's palm with some lettuce right about now

 

[mad1]

It is the end of the decade. Going back it makes sense to say that the 80s were the years from 1980 through 1989. The 90s were the years from 1990 through 1999 and so on. So it would stand to reason that the 2000s are the years from 2000 through 2009.

quote of the year, I love it!

 

[cobl04]

So, in summation:

Technically, no.

For all intents and purposes, yes.

 

[bono_man2002]

Its the end of the world as we know it!

 

[mad1]

yeah, the aliens are about to land in New York.

 

[redhotswami]

I happen to think the latter, just as I thought the new millenium started on Jan. 1, 2001, not the year before, because we start counting from 1, not 0. My co-worker says otherwise.

Any thoughts?

Interesting. I agree we tend to start counting at 1, but that's when we count with our fingers. There's a bunch of numbers inbetween 0 and 1, and they do have value. Don't we start counting years of our life at the time of birth?

 

[bono_man2002]

yeah, the aliens are about to land in New York.

But you feel fine? Right? Right? Right?

 

[mad1]

I dunno dude, already I feel vibration beyond belief.

 

[bono_man2002]

 

[BoMac]

Interesting. I agree we tend to start counting at 1, but that's when we count with our fingers. There's a bunch of numbers in between 0 and 1, and they do have value. Don't we start counting years of our life at the time of birth?

Yes we do, but when we are born we don't say we are 0 years old.

I understand what others are saying, but Jive Turkey explained it better than I could. What I mean is if we want to be technical, the next decade does not start this January but the next. The very first decade was 1 A.D. to 10 A.D. and the second decade was 11 A.D. to 20 A.D. so on and so forth.

 

[redhotswami]

Yes we do, but when we are born we don't say we are 0 years old.

we do consider the weeks and months beyond that to be of value though (at least the clothing stores do!) so, since these numbers between 0 and 1 have value, i think 0 only doesn't have a value for that day.

like, 0 doesn't have a value, but 0.1 does. you know what i mean?

 

[mad1]

when it turns to 2010, from then until 2019, do we say 'onenies?'

or twentytennies?

or noughty one-ees


fuk me on a rough stone like.
im as smart as a doorknob.

 

[BoMac]

we do consider the weeks and months beyond that to be of value though (at least the clothing stores do!) so, since these numbers between 0 and 1 have value, i think 0 only doesn't have a value for that day.

like, 0 doesn't have a value, but 0.1 does. you know what i mean?

I know what you mean, but is 0.1 reflected on a calendar? I dunno, I see what you're saying.

 

[redhotswami]

I know what you mean, but is 0.1 reflected on a calendar?

Absolutely. It's called February 5.

 

[Dalton]

your suffixes make the people from the first decade feel like shit

Well your suffixes and a couple of millennia of parasites and what not make them feel like shit.

 

[Jive Turkey]

Well your suffixes and a couple of millennia of parasites and what not make them feel like shit.

Indeed. Earthworm poop. Do worms and bugs and shit get into modern day caskets after they've been buried?


Another way to think of the whole discussion (though I cant believe there are some who still might not get it.....there arent, are there?) is that, when you refer, in past tense, to the first year of your life, how old were you then? The first year of your life, you were 1 day old to 364 days old. Yet you still refer to that as the first year of your life (year 1). You were at no point, 1 year old in the first year of your life

 

[Lila64]

Its the end of the world as we know it!

But you feel fine? Right? Right? Right?

Damn it, you beat me to it! And you did it yourself!

 

[kramwest1]

The 00s end at the end of this December, imho.

But isn't this talk ALL premature? We can't confidently close the book on a decade until it is in the past. I'm sure the good folks of Year 0 were quite confidently sitting around discussing how they were in the middle of decade whatever and how great Caesar was. Then Jesus starting developing and turning tricks and soon the numbering all went to hell.
When did the Year 0 people have to eat their words and realize that they weren't in the middle of some other decade, they were starting modern times?
Jesus could be returning as a baby right now and then where will our decade numbering be? All of us folks who will be left behind will probably start over at 0 again. I know I will.

Not to mention there are a bunch of Mayans sitting around laughing at those who still refer to "the next decade." 2012 bitches!

 

[Mrs. Garrison]

I dunno dude, already I feel vibration beyond belief.

must be some good batteries!