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Old 04-09-2009, 10:10 PM   #526
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"mom get me down pleaze, k thx"


i'm in the other part of the basement and i hear her bark a couple of times i go around the corner and she is looking at me. she was afraid to get down..
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"mom get me down pleaze, k thx"


i'm in the other part of the basement and i hear her bark a couple of times i go around the corner and she is looking at me. she was afraid to get down..
Awesome!
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i am still cracking up at that pic.. it was so funny. I stood there for 5 min taking pictures and she didn't move both times she jumped up there last nite.
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i am still cracking up at that pic.. it was so funny. I stood there for 5 min taking pictures and she didn't move both times she jumped up there last nite.
that is so great, give Gracie a big hug for me
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that is so great, give Gracie a big hug for me
I will. And good belly scratch too..
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If anybody asks if I have a dog, I'm going to say, no, I do not. I have a monster too smart for its own good disguised as a heeler-Jack Russell mix.

This morning, I caught him not only with his nose on the dining room table, but with one paw trying to grab at things and bring them closer to his mouth. I was so shocked and impressed that he was smart enough to try it that I couldn't tell him to get down. I started laughing incredulously and walked out of the room.

Patches needs puppy school, I think. And we need a taller dining table.
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If anybody asks if I have a dog, I'm going to say, no, I do not. I have a monster too smart for its own good disguised as a heeler-Jack Russell mix.

This morning, I caught him not only with his nose on the dining room table, but with one paw trying to grab at things and bring them closer to his mouth. I was so shocked and impressed that he was smart enough to try it that I couldn't tell him to get down. I started laughing incredulously and walked out of the room.

Patches needs puppy school, I think. And we need a taller dining table.
hahaha..

i know the feeling. Gracie table surfs all the time. Especially our coffee table (it sits kinda low but hey she's a 50lb 7 mo old lab) cuz that's where we tend to eat most. As soon as I let her out of her area she goes for the coffee table. I have caught her licking the table clean when there isn't anything there.. She has stolen a sip of my cran-raspberry juice before.. lol
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Nikon passed puppy school but he's doing it again, lol. His manners and self- control are lacking. He needs remedial education.

One morning he chewed through a pair of headphones, an mp3 player, and the cord of my Dyson DC14 Animal in less than an hour.
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Nikon is now fit and trim for his show







My cousin got her dog last week


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Nikon passed puppy school but he's doing it again, lol. His manners and self- control are lacking. He needs remedial education.

One morning he chewed through a pair of headphones, an mp3 player, and the cord of my Dyson DC14 Animal in less than an hour.

I was wondering about what you were going to do with him in the OB department. Are you going to take him to OB classes or just do the SchH? I know some people say you shouldn't mix the two. When is his big show? It's a sieger show right? He is looking beautiful.
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The OB itself is fine, he learns quickly and is food and toy motivated so he is very easy to train. It's more the self-control that's a problem. Part if it is age, part is inexperience/not being proofed in many environments (read: my fault). I am not overly concerned with precise obedience at this age. I did not get Kenya until she was over 3 years old and yet I have put 8 titles on her and am working on 5 more. Nikon needs to learn to control himself around other dogs and people, he gets too agitated and anxious. Kenya is the opposite, she is very composed. Last night I took her to class instead of Nikon and I was helping Becky with Schumi and left Kenya in a down-stay across the room, with dogs running past her and she doesn't care or break her stay. Later on I put her in a crate that is always in the room and someone said "isn't she going to throw a fit in there?" but she ruffled the dog bed and went to sleep. She does what I say until I tell her to do something else I stayed to watch the flyball class to see if I can do it with Nikon, and Kenya just slept in a down-stay the entire time.

Nikon did puppy class and he passed the AKC STAR. Honestly he's probably more trained than most adult pet dogs but I have different standards. He is very trainable - he knew sit, down, stay, speak, and shake by the time he was 9 weeks old - but I care more about my dogs have a clear head than just the tricks and the performance. People marvel at Kenya and honestly, I spend maybe once or twice a week working with her for 10 minutes (maybe more like 5 minutes twice a day every day, the week before a trial) and that's it. Dogs are very easy to train as long as the human figures out how to train them and the dog is under control. Nikon needs to learn that organized activity can be fun too.

Generally the people who say you cannot mix are people that are super competitive in SchH and that's it. I dabble in a lot of things and I value the breed's versatility. I think it's bullshit that they can't do a lot of things. Christine/umzilla on the GSD board is a great example, look at all the things her dogs excel at, at very high levels: Vesta German Shepherds - Home . Of course the SchH people want you to believe that SchH is the end-all and be-all of dog sport, and as far as GSDs it pretty much is, but that's not to say a well-rounded dog will be "ruined" by training in other venues. That I think is bullshit. Also, when I see the temperaments on the dogs that are considered world class sport dogs, I don't believe these are dogs that could ever live in my home. I want a dog with a clear head and an "off" switch. This generally distinguishes sporting GSDs from sporting Malinois, the Mals are known for being absolutely over the top. There is one coming to our club now that is like this, top class dog that went from BH to SchH3 in less than 9 months before he was 2 years old, that's about as good as it gets, but this dog would destroy my home literally and figuritively. But, some of these dogs would not even pass a simple CGC test.

Yes, it's the Sieger show. It's sort of confusing because the WDA has one and the USA has one. The WDA one was in October and the USA one is this month.
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Nikon passed puppy school but he's doing it again, lol. His manners and self- control are lacking. He needs remedial education.
One morning he chewed through a pair of headphones, an mp3 player, and the cord of my Dyson DC14 Animal in less than an hour.
Nikkon!
And he's looking great!

and your cousin's doggie!

IS~ beautiful close-up pic!

jcos! hi ya! Riley- what a big cutie!

Justin great SNOOOOZE pic!

and thanks, Indra, for the Sophie T heeler story.
I'd only heard a brief mention, but not all the details.

That is one set of astonished & ecstatic dogsters!
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Wally and I start beginning OB class tomorrow. I don't know if he is going to go far. I think if he gets his cgc it will be a miracle. The only thing he knows how to do without me giving him treats is sit. If I am giving him treats he can poke my hand (it's me or the dog lady does it alot), sit, and paw. It's embarrassing. I don't know if he is slow or just stubborn. He's 6 months old now. I would love to have a dog as smart and as well-behaved as Kenya. I think Charlie has the potential to be a good boy. I hope his neurotic behavior is because he wants a job and not just bad genes. I'm gonna try to get him in class next if the school I'm going to is any good.
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From my experience with dogs, some degree of trainability does depend on the dog's inherent intelligence level. Even the best trainer will have a harder time training a less intelligent and less motivated dog. And what usually happens then is that people give up when their dogs aren't easily trainable.

My aunt has an American Eskimo who is just basically a holy terror in about every regard. She also feeds him eclairs (with the chocolate scraped off) though so it's not like it's any wonder.
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True, but I think many people make a lot of excuses and sell their dogs short. I used to work at the animal shelter and the reason we have so many abandoned and unwanted pets in this country is not because of over breeding, it's because people just don't have the time or the basic commitment to their dogs. Some dogs get turned in for the most stupid reasons, things that take maybe three ten minute training sessions to fix. There are shelter mutts that have SchH titles, are service dogs, etc. I know someone with a Chow Chow service dog who also does lots of obedience and that is one of the most difficult breeds in just about every aspect.

My uncle has a chocolate lab, a field lab, and he insists that my dogs are trained because they are house dogs and his dog is wild because she is a kennel dog. The logic makes no sense. I can put my dogs in a kennel all day no problem. His dog can't come inside because he never trained it. It amazes me the weird stuff he says considering how long he's had dogs and how extensively he uses them (for hunting and working companionship).

Also so many people attach human emotions to dogs and it gets in the way of simple problem solving and training. For example, if I had a dollar every time someone told me their dog pees in the house out of "spite" or "jealousy", I'd be rich!

Generally speaking, I think it often becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Dogs feed off our attitudes and we get out what we put in.

But I agree about motivation and intelligence, putting more emphasis on motivation. Kenya is easy to train but very difficult to motivate. She's a very obedient dog but she is not flashy and often "flat" because of the lack of drive. Coke, who is a mix of several intelligent, trainable breeds has NO drive for toys whatsoever, and just enough food drive to accomplish the basics. My cousin's new dog on the other hand already tugs and chases toys. That fluffy little kick dog will be a breeze to train because she's already motivated by several different things.
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