For Dog Lovers.... Part 3

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Can anyone recommend a good probiotic or similar product that can be used long term?

I've had ongoing diarrhea problems with my dog and been to the vet twice for it. Two rounds of two antibiotics each time, plus Fortiflora from the vet helped, but I'm not inclined to go through yet another round of antibiotics. My dog is tiny, only 5 pounds, and almost 14 years old now, so the less I have to put her through, the better.

Thanks for any suggestions you might have!
 
My friend gives her dog one regularly, I'll ask what it is. I know it's not cheap, but he's 88lbs so yeah!
 
I've also heard you can just give a plain probiotic type yogurt as long as the dog tolerates it. I used to get a tub of plain yogurt and drop a dollop in Kenya's bowl when she needed probiotics.
 
I'm going out of town this weekend and had to board my dog at the vet's for the first time. He looked so sad when I left him there that I felt really bad. Ever since we've had him, he hates it every time he has to be in a crate and now he has to be in a slightly larger one for most of the weekend. I hope he doesn't freak out.
 
oh poor thing! sounds like he was really upset!

i took my golden retriever to the vets the other day for her annual vaccines, and she went absolutely hyper she was so stressed bless her! she didn't get aggressive but she ran to the door and just kept doing her "speedy tricks" (spin, little beg, spin, big beg, spin) which she does at our front door when she's really excited when i tell her we're going to go "walkies" - she was absolutely desperate to go out, poor girl, and was trying her best to persuade me to open the consulting room door and let her out! the vet was kind though and just crouched down on the floor by the door to give her the injections and she was a good girl for him...

is there a kennels which isn't at the vets? maybe he associates it with an unpleasant vet experience? our dog gets very excited now when we take her to the kennels - it's just a very small family-run business at a local breeders, with only about 12 spaces, and the dogs have very spacious individual pens with an outside and inside section, and get walked 3 times a day - she loves the guy - she does her happy dance when she sees him (she is soooooo disloyal lol) - it's a bit embarrassing - she should be pining for us LOL!! she is always extremely excited when we fetch her though, but it is reassuring to know that she is happy going there...
 
Poor dog!

I'm super-de-duper picky about where I board my dogs. For one I have multiple intact male German Shepherd dogs that are trained in bitework/protection work. They're actually quite lovable and social but a lot of places just do not allow intact dogs period, or dogs with that type of training. I'm also really picky about what vaccinations my dogs get so that rules out a lot of boarding kennels that require vaccinations I do not use. I'm really lucky to have found a friend that boards my dogs at her farm for a very good price. She keeps them happy and safe, even sent me a video last time I was gone. I have my sister come over and pet-sit if it's just for a weekend, but my dog boarding friend actually has a more secure yard than we do so I feel better bringing them there for longer stays. She is certified in pet first aid and CPR and she has her own insurance that covers her dog boarding.

I never board at the vet because the dogs have to soil in their kennels and I won't allow that (my friend lets them out several times a day often for hours if it's nice out and even gets up at night to let them out). At the vet hospital there are only staff there during business hours and the dogs are only let out twice day. I would hate having my dog be forced to soil in his kennel. :(
 
The vet staff let him out into a dog run to use the bathroom but I don't know how often they did that. He really had to go when we picked him up at 8:00 this morning, so I think it had been a while. The vet told us that my dog was scared of him the whole time, but he finally let one of the staff members pet him last night. I think he knows that the vet is the one who gives him shots. We apologized for his bad behavior, but the vet said that he was just scared and that's what happens sometimes. I was really surprised that he was actually biting people, though.

If we ever have to board him again, I might look into other boarders to see how they are. My dog is really energetic and crafty, so not just anyone can handle him, and there's no way an older person could do it (that's why we didn't ask Grandma to watch him); and the vet only charged $50 to keep him from Thursday to Tuesday morning, and I'm sure it would cost more somewhere else, but it would be worth it if it was a less stressful environment. It's very rare for the whole family to be gone at the same time (my mom hates to travel), so hopefully we won't have to worry about this again for a long time.

It was so funny, when we got there to pick him up, he saw us through the receptionist's window and tried to climb over her desk to get to us.
 
New York Times, Dec. 1
The call came into the behavior specialists here from a doctor in Afghanistan. His patient had just been through a firefight and now was cowering under a cot, refusing to come out.

Apparently even the chew toys hadn’t worked.

Post-traumatic stress disorder, thought Dr. Walter F. Burghardt Jr., chief of behavioral medicine at the Daniel E. Holland Military Working Dog Hospital at Lackland Air Force Base. Specifically, canine PTSD.

If anyone needed evidence of the frontline role played by dogs in war these days, here is the latest: the four-legged, wet-nosed troops used to sniff out mines, track down enemy fighters and clear buildings are struggling with the mental strains of combat nearly as much as their human counterparts. By some estimates, more than 5% of the approximately 650 military dogs deployed by American combat forces are developing canine PTSD. Of those, about half are likely to be retired from service, Dr. Burghardt said.

Though veterinarians have long diagnosed behavioral problems in animals, the concept of canine PTSD is only about 18 months old, and still being debated. But it has gained vogue among military veterinarians, who have been seeing patterns of troubling behavior among dogs exposed to explosions, gunfire and other combat-related violence in Iraq and Afghanistan. Like humans with the analogous disorder, different dogs show different symptoms. Some become hyper-vigilant. Others avoid buildings or work areas that they had previously been comfortable in. Some undergo sharp changes in temperament, becoming unusually aggressive with their handlers, or clingy and timid. Most crucially, many stop doing the tasks they were trained to perform. “If the dog is trained to find improvised explosives and it looks like it’s working, but isn’t, it’s not just the dog that’s at risk,” Dr. Burghardt said. “This is a human health issue as well.”

That the military is taking a serious interest in canine PTSD underscores the importance of working dogs in the current wars. Once used primarily as furry sentries, military dogs—most are German shepherds, followed by Belgian Malinois and Labrador retrievers—have branched out into an array of specialized tasks. They are widely considered the most effective tools for detecting the improvised explosive devices, or IEDs, frequently used in Afghanistan. Typically made from fertilizer and chemicals, and containing little or no metal, those buried bombs can be nearly impossible to find with standard mine-sweeping instruments. In the past three years, IEDs have become the major cause of casualties in Afghanistan. The Marine Corps also has begun using specially trained dogs to track Taliban fighters and bomb-makers. And Special Operations commandos train their own dogs to accompany elite teams on secret missions like the Navy SEAL raid that led to the killing of Osama bin Laden in Pakistan. Across all the forces, more than 50 military dogs have been killed since 2005. The number of working dogs on active duty has risen to 2700, from 1800 in 2001, and the training school headquartered here at Lackland [San Antonio] has gotten busy, preparing about 500 dogs a year. So has the Holland hospital, the Pentagon’s canine version of Walter Reed Army Medical Center.

Dr. Burghardt, a lanky 59-year-old who retired last year from the Air Force as a colonel, rarely sees his PTSD patients in the flesh. Consultations with veterinarians in the field are generally done by phone, e-mail or Skype, and often involve video documentation. In a series of videos that Dr. Burghardt uses to train veterinarians to spot canine PTSD, one shepherd barks wildly at the sound of gunfire that it had once tolerated in silence. Another can be seen confidently inspecting the interior of cars but then refusing to go inside a bus or a building. Another sits listlessly on a barrier wall, then after finally responding to its handler’s summons, runs away from a group of Afghan soldiers. In each case, Dr. Burghardt theorizes, the dogs were using an object, vehicle or person as a “cue” for some violence they had witnessed. “If you want to put doggy thoughts into their heads,” he said, “the dog is thinking: when I see this kind of individual, things go boom, and I’m distressed.”

Treatment can be tricky. Since the patient cannot explain what is wrong, veterinarians and handlers must make educated guesses about the traumatizing events. Care can be as simple as taking a dog off patrol and giving it lots of exercise, playtime and gentle obedience training. More serious cases will receive what Dr. Burghardt calls “desensitization counterconditioning,” which entails exposing the dog at a safe distance to a sight or sound that might set off a reaction—a gunshot, a loud bang or a vehicle, for instance. If the dog does not react, it is rewarded, and the trigger—“the spider in a glass box,” Dr. Burghardt calls it—is moved progressively closer. Gina, a shepherd with PTSD who was the subject of news articles last year, was successfully treated with desensitization and has been cleared to deploy again, said Tech. Sgt. Amanda Callahan, a spokeswoman at Peterson Air Force Base in Colorado. Some dogs are also treated with the same medications used to fight panic attacks in humans. Dr. Burghardt asserts that medications seem particularly effective when administered soon after traumatizing events. The Labrador retriever that cowered under a cot after a firefight, for instance, was given Xanax, an anti-anxiety drug, and within days was working well again.

Dogs that do not recover quickly are returned to their home bases for longer-term treatment. But if they continue to show symptoms after three months, they are usually retired or transferred to different duties, Dr. Burghardt said.

As with humans, there is much debate about treatment, with little research yet to guide veterinarians. Lee Charles Kelley, a dog trainer who writes a blog for Psychology Today called “My Puppy, My Self,” says medications should be used only as a stopgap. “We don’t even know how they work in people,” he said. In the civilian dog world, a growing number of animal behaviorists seem to be endorsing the concept of canine PTSD, saying it also affects household pets who experience car accidents and even less traumatic events. Dr. Nicholas H. Dodman, director of the animal behavior clinic at the Cummings School of Veterinary Medicine at Tufts University, said he had written about and treated dogs with PTSD-like symptoms for years—but did not call it PTSD until recently. Asked if the disorder could be cured, Dr. Dodman said probably not. “It is more management,” he said. “Dogs never forget.”
 
I really don't doubt this^. Dogs are much more evolved and in tune with human emotions than most people think. How incredibly sad. :(

I'm glad this thread was brought back up though. This morning down a rural road that runs next to the Everglades, I saw a German shepherd narrowly miss a speeding car. This area is known for high speeds (I call it our autobahn) and it is never patrolled by cops so cars constant go in excess of 90 mph. There is about a 50 foot stretch where there is some trailer park on the side. I constantly see kids by the side of the road and wonder what the hell the parents are doing!
Anyway, the two cars in front of me were going at least 80 in this stretch (limit is 45) when the shep wandered onto the road. It looked like he might have clipped one of his legs by a fraction of an inch before quickly darting away, tail between his legs. I wanted to stop, but it looked like someone in the community saw what happened anyway.
I sure hope the pup is all right with little more than some tire burn on his leg, and hopefully he'll keep from the road from now on. I was upset with myself all morning for not stopping, but I probably would have been rear-ended.
 
I was just glancing through a slideshow of selected paintings from the Bonhams Dogs in Show & Field Fine Art Auction, which runs concurrently with the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show. They're mostly 19th-century English paintings--some nice images of terriers and setters in there. What caught my eye was an interesting sequence of images of pugs--interesting because, taken together, they show how rapidly the breed's appearance changed in response to Victorian preferences for neoteny (maintenance of a juvenile look into adulthood) and perhaps parallel developments in China, which was still occasionally a source of breeding stock. Obviously it's more interesting if you happen to like pugs :wink: , but I always find this sort of pre-photographic documentation of breed development pretty cool.


early 19th century (1802); this one looks very much like some 18th-cen. images I'd seen before, they were much taller dogs at the time:
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mid 19th century (1850); note how much the puppies resemble present-day adult pugs:
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late 19th century (no exact date); this one kinda makes me wish breeders had settled on this look instead! Healthier muzzle shape too...
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ABC News, Feb. 14
Television is going to the dogs in San Diego with DOGTV, a new 24-hour channel for pooches that is meant to keep your dog company while you are gone. According to the people behind the channel, the combination of devouring programming and pet treats will be “a confident, happy dog who’s less likely to develop stress, separation anxiety or other related problems.” DOGTV, which launched on Cox and Time Warner digital cable systems in San Diego this week, is intended for dogs that are left at home during the day.
Sample programming includes a video of dogs playing with balls to give your pet stimulation, dogs sleeping to help soothe them, and one has a dizzying dogs-eye view out the car window.

Dr. Katherine Houpt, professor of animal behavior at Cornell University, said the secret is likely in the audio, not the video. “People have looked at TV and dogs in kennels and they didn’t pay a whole lot of attention to it. While it’s a nice idea, I don’t think it’s going to be that successful,” Houpt told ABC News. “I’ve actually found that cats seem to be more interested in television...[Dogs] probably pay more attention to the sound, but the main thing is dogs probably don’t want to be entertained while you’re away. What dogs do mostly during the day when you’re not around is sleep.” Houpt said that while dogs do experience loneliness and separation anxiety, if you’re a dog owner, it is best to play soft music and create a dark environment so the dog feels secure when you are not at home.
DOGTV Trailer: "Stimulation"
DOGTV Trailer: "Relaxation"
 
LOL, yeah right! I watch quite a bit of TV, or rather have it on as background noise, and my dogs pay *zero* attention other than perking up at sounds of neonatal animals in distress, like when they raid a cat hoarder's house and all the kittens are mewing. Coke will bark if there's a loud doorbell sound (which I find hilarious since the place were living when we got him and lived there for three years never had a working doorbell).

The other day I was editing a video someone shot of one of my training sessions and Pan was sleeping at my feet. He heard me say his name and give a command on the video, so he perked up and did what I commanded on the video.
 
Rest in Peace Sheeva (1995-2012). You were my best friend who gave me and those you knew unconditional love. I will miss you so much. My heart aches at losing you. I will love you forever and I will see you again. :sad:

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This interesting article about traffic-stop drug searches and Fourth Amendment rights had a section on the problems of treating K-9 unit drug dogs' alerts as probable grounds for a search:
[We] showed the video of [a suspect's] stop to two K-9 experts.

Gene Papet is executive director of K9 Resources, a company that trains detection dogs, including police dogs. Papet found a number of problems with the way [Officer] Reichert handled his dog. "Just before the dog alerts, you can hear a change in the tone of the handler's voice. That's troubling. I don't know anything about this particular handler, but that's often an indication of a handler that's cuing a response." In other words, it's indicative of a handler instructing the dog to alert, not waiting to see whether the dog will alert. "You also hear the handler say at one point that the dog alerted from the front of the car because the wind is blowing from the back of the car to the front, so the scent would have carried with the wind," Papet says. "But the dog was brought around the car twice. If that's the case, the dog should have alerted the first time he was brought to the front of the car. The dog only alerted the second time, which corresponded to what would be consistent with a vocal cue from the handler."

Russ Jones is a former police officer with 10 years in drug enforcement, including as a K-9 officer. He's now a member of Law Enforcement Against Prohibition, a group of current and former cops and prosecutors who favor ending the war on drugs. "That dog was going to do what ever (Officer Reichert) needed it to do," Jones says. "Throughout the video, the dog is looking for handler feedback, which isn't how it's supposed to work."

In the 2005 case Illinois v. Caballes, the US Supreme Court ruled that having a drug dog sniff the exterior of a vehicle during a routine traffic stop does not violate the Fourth Amendment. But in a dissent to that opinion, Justice David Souter pointed to mounting evidence that drug dogs aren't as infallible as police departments often claim. Souter noted a study that the state of Illinois itself used in its briefs, showing that in lab tests, drug dogs fail 12.5% - 60% of the time. Since then, more evidence has emerged to support Souter's concerns.

The problem isn't that the dogs aren't capable of picking up the scent, it's that dogs have been bred to please and interact with humans. A dog can easily be manipulated to alert whenever needed. But even with conscientious cops, a dog without the proper training may pick up on its handler's body language and alert whenever it detects its handler is suspicious.

In one study published last year in the journal Animal Cognition, researchers rigged some tests designed to fool dogs into falsely alerting and others designed to trick handlers into thinking a package contained narcotics (it didn't). Of the 144 total searches performed, the dogs falsely alerted 123 times. More interesting, the dogs were twice as likely to falsely alert to packages designed to trick their handlers than those designed to trick the dogs.

In 2011, the Chicago Tribune published a review of drug dog searches conducted over three years by police departments in the Chicago suburbs. The paper found that just 44% of dog "alerts" led to the discovery of actual contraband. Interestingly, for Hispanic drivers the success rate dipped to 27%, again supporting the theory that drug dogs tend to confirm the suspicions (and, consequently, the biases) of their handlers.

A 2006 statistical analysis of police dog tests by University of North Carolina law professor Richard Myers concluded that the dogs aren't reliable enough to provide probable cause for a search.

[We] obtained the records for one Illinois state police K-9 unit for an 11-month period in 2007 and 2008. Of the 136 times this particular dog alerted to the presence of drugs during a traffic stop over that period, 35 of the subsequent hand searches found measurable quantities of illegal drugs. See accompanying article for a more thorough analysis of the K-9 records:
An analysis of the K9 records shows that only 25.7% of the drug dog's "alerts" resulted in police finding a measurable quantity of illicit drugs. Just 13% resulted in the recovery of more than 10 grams of marijuana, generally considered an amount for personal use, and 10.4% turned up enough drugs to charge the motorists or their passengers with at least one felony.​

Jones, the former narcotics and K-9 officer, said those sorts of numbers are why he now opposes the drug war. "90% of these dog-handler teams are utter failures. They're just ways to get around the Fourth Amendment," he says. "When I debate these people around the country, I always challenge the K-9 officers to a double-blind test to see how accurate they and their dogs really are. They always refuse."

These figures strongly suggest that while the Supreme Court has ruled that there's nothing invasive about an exterior drug dog sniff of a car, in truth, the dog’s alert may be nothing more than the dog confirming its handler's hunches--which is exactly what the Fourth Amendment is supposed to protect against.
 
I know a good deal about these dogs and how they work and have to agree with the skepticism to an extent. There is such a huge spectrum as far as the quality of these dogs, their training, how they were proofed, the materials used (pseudo-scent vs the real thing), etc that when it comes to our rights I'm find erring on the side of the dog making a mistake. That, and I just care a lot less about drugs than I do about, say, dogs that are used to apprehend actual suspects or used to track ditched weapons. The latter I find really valuable. Often a properly trained dog can find a tossed gun in minutes while it would take several offers hours to do the same search, if they're able to find the weapon at all.

There's a chance I may be training one of my dogs for narcotics and was told that if I do, I have to keep a detailed training log from day one. I asked why, since I've never before logged my dogs' training and was told that if the dog were to ever been involved in a case and I were to end up in court, I'd have to back up all the training, all the finds the dog has ever done.
 
I remember growing up I always wanted a Border Collie or just any dog. My dad does not like dogs, found them to be too much work, and so I never got one and grew up with cats (and horses, though that wasn't at home, it was friends and the barn I took lessons at). To make up for it he did let me dog-sit for family friends and such and I learned how to take care of other people's animals when they went on vacation. I got my first dog, a German Shepherd, shortly after my 20th birthday after 3.5 years of living on my own.

It is a lot of work, but I love it. I'm definitely a dog person the same way I'm a horse person. I love being able to interact with and have a relationship with my animals. Cats are so independent and while I love them and will always have them, it's not always as rewarding. I love that when I train and work with dogs I can get a result and I know it goes both ways.

Can safely say after years of being warned about all the hard work, I'll definitely continue to have dogs. My dad was missing out. :wink:

Here's my puppers at 5 months (significant other holding the leash) :
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Pan's the fastest German Shepherd in North America!!!

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Way to go Pan! :applaud:

You are an excellent trainer, Lies. I hope I can someday inspire my dogs to reach their potential as well as you do yours.
 
Question - first night. We've put him in the laundry and he hasn't stopped yelping for like 20 minutes... do we leave him in there?

He's just gone quiet...
 
Yes, it's called crate training. You should get a proper kennel for him as soon as possible though, since I'm assuming the laundry room won't be a permanent home for him. Establish a routine where he always sleeps in there and you can start to teach him where to go to the bathroom and where not to, as they never go where they perceive their "home" to be. Once the dog is crate trained, you can start to let him sleep in your room or whatever without fear of him soiling it.

Depending on the dog, prepare for a lot of noise.
 
Yes, it's called crate training. You should get a proper kennel for him as soon as possible though, since I'm assuming the laundry room won't be a permanent home for him. Establish a routine where he always sleeps in there and you can start to teach him where to go to the bathroom and where not to, as they never go where they perceive their "home" to be. Once the dog is crate trained, you can start to let him sleep in your room or whatever without fear of him soiling it.

Depending on the dog, prepare for a lot of noise.

My pup is crate trained now. It took about a month of whining/barking (back when he was 8 weeks old) but now he's 5 months and quietly sleeps in his crate all night long. He likes being in there and will often chill in there on his own when we let him out during the day.
 
Oh my that puppy is CUTE!

I would crate train as well, it's safer and more useful later on. Once the pup enters the massive chewing phase you could be missing chunks of molding, baseboard, drywall, electrical cords, and anything else that isn't literally nailed down....

Some dogs take to a crate instantly and others do not. Nikon was in the "do not" category. He howled and screamed for hours the first several days. He acted wild and basically had to be "crate broken". Of course many people never use crates at all for their dogs so it's not a requirement. For us it is because the training and competing we do require all dogs to be safely confined (read: crated) while not working/competing and I've had a few instances of injury or illness where the dog must be on crate rest and it's a lot less stressful for a dog that has already grown to view the crate as their own personal den then a dog that is not used to confinement. The nice thing about using a crate with a puppy is that they don't have to be so separated. I keep mine right next to my side of the bed. They can see me and smell me. Usually with a baby puppy I take them to bed with me and they fall asleep on me while I read, then I carefully move them into the crate. They fuss a bit but seem to settle MUCH faster than shoving a fully awake pup in the crate, especially if the crate is in a separate part of the house. Nikon was from a litter of 11 which probably contributed to his distress at being crated at night. By letting him fall asleep with me and then go into the crate next to us it was a little less stressful for everyone but he still demonstrated his full range of vocalizations each night for a week or so.

And yes, crate training majorly helps with potty training unless you're one of the lucky few that get an 8 week old already trained. Not me, I swear my boys had underdeveloped bladders!
 
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