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Old 09-29-2014, 11:31 PM   #661
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Laz, don't open:

 
Gump, would you agree that if Laz does not like the VERY end, he has no soul?
I thought the final lines were beautiful.

But I think he could have conjured up that imagery as the harbor faded away in the distance from Jacob's viewpoint on the departing ship, instead of having to give us a Cliff's Notes condensation of the rest of his life so he could stage the vision on his deathbed. Yes, it makes a nice reflection with the birth at the beginning of the book, but I don't know if it completely worked for me.

Especially compared with Cloud Atlas, which has one of the greatest endings I've ever read.

Anyway, great book, a pleasure to read, and perhaps even more cinematic than anything he's previously written because of how immersed in the world one becomes. I'd probably put this #2 under Cloud Atlas.

For now, that is. Because it's time to crack open the epic story of Lance's Mom over six different time periods in The Blown Cocks.
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Well, I'm over 1/3 in. Was sprinting through the thing and this Iraq War stuff is really slowing me down. Boring the hell out of me, to be honest.

Not sure if I should take a break or just get through it.

Anyway, I'm intrigued. But it's really going to have to kick into another gear if it's going to compete with CA.
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It does not compete with CA. But it does pick up.
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You finished already??

The Iraq stuff actually improved for me, more because of how personal it got. But if I wanted a detail-heavy exploration of the "Emerald City", I'd read Chandrasekaran's book like Mitchell did. And it felt like he was using this section to beat the dead horse that is Bush & Cheney's misguided adventures in the Middle East. That news is like 10 years old.

Anyway, I'm on the Crispin Hershey section now, and this is a little too reminiscent of the Timothy Cavendish storyline of Cloud Atlas, the snarky literary world insider stuff. It's funny, but yeah.
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I'm finished, yeah. Reading 1776 now.

I didn't mind the Iraq section but didn't exactly love it either. It didn't slow me down or anything but I was not plowing through it to see how it ended either.

I like the Hershey section, it evolves a bit, and I didn't mind the insider stuff again because this had a different feel in that Hershey is more of a has-been whereas Cavendish was a never-was who got very lucky very quickly. 2 different perspectives, didn't feel too same-y to me. BUT THAT'S JUST ME.
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I'm begrudgingly here to admit that I greatly enjoy The Hunger Games.
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I liked the first book, thought the 2nd was a joke, thought the 3rd was in the middle.
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I think that was about Travis' assessment as well. I kinda feel like this is going to end up being like the Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy. The first movie = REALLY good. Second = What's the point? Third = Well, that brought things together OK in the end.
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I liked the first book, thought the 2nd was a joke, thought the 3rd was in the middle.
This is exactly right.

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I think that was about Travis' assessment as well.
This is exactly right.
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Mitchell sure knows how to end a book, doesn't he?

 
I really loved how he tied this back to Thousand Autumns. Ingeniously. I wonder how far in advance he planned this.
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I told you it picks up.

 
I've read some interviews with him and he claims that his books are all part of some sort of metaverse or something akin to that. Not sure he planned this to a T but it seems he's had the idea of connectivity between his novels in his head all along. He references characters or books characters wrote or albums they created all the time, as you know….

So I cannot claim to have liked this book as much as Cloud Atlas or Thousand Autumns (to be fair I rarely have enjoyed a book as much as Cloud Atlas) but I did enjoy it more and more as the novel went along and I certainly was a sucker for the end. I don't know, it's easy to write a happy ending but something about the way he closes his books always leaves me with a really good feeling. Hard to quantify, at least for me but I know what I mean.
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This is exactly right.



This is exactly right.
You know what kind of disappointed me about the 2nd book. She had a very easy chance to go into some more depth and detail about each individual district. Not just as exposition but organically and she ignored the opportunity. I am rarely one to talk about how an artist could have made a better book or album because I don't know shit but in this case, you've built this world, we know a decent amount about two districts, you've touched on a few more, let's dive in deeper here. Nope. Guess it's nitpick but it sticks with me even now for whatever reason. I'll say this, though, and if it's damning with faint praise, so be it - all three books were really really quick reads, plowed through the trilogy in less than a week, so they did keep me reading. I read them before the first film came out, figured I might as well.
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I told you it picks up.

 

So I cannot claim to have liked this book as much as Cloud Atlas or Thousand Autumns (to be fair I rarely have enjoyed a book as much as Cloud Atlas) but I did enjoy it more and more as the novel went along and I certainly was a sucker for the end. I don't know, it's easy to write a happy ending but something about the way he closes his books always leaves me with a really good feeling. Hard to quantify, at least for me but I know what I mean.
Yeah that's exactly in line with my estimation.

I think in this case, compared to Cloud Atlas, the whole is not better than the sum of the parts. Each section has its own pleasures, but I'm not sure everything was mapped/tied together in the same satisfying way.

It's very readable, like all of his work.
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It's very readable, like all of his work.
Agreed. I love spending time in his world(s).
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Finished Mockingjay. Loved it.

Started Wayward Pines. Hate it.
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