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Old 07-01-2014, 08:56 PM   #556
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Cool concept, but I hate his style and the characters are all just awful. I'm going to have to practice some diplomacy.
"Paolo, I thought the concept was cool, but your writing style isn't a kind I usually enjoy. Also, I thought the characters needed more development."

Then bring up something less controversial, like the Supreme Court or something.


That's all I got.
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Old 07-02-2014, 03:46 PM   #557
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Yeah. After reading his author's notes/acknowledgements, I even got annoyed with him as well as the book. Like, it made me think the main character had a lot based on him, and it was a big turn-off.

Oh well.
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Are you even going to get coffee now?

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Old 07-02-2014, 09:41 PM   #559
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I dunno. I might still reach out to see if he wants to get together.
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Old 07-02-2014, 10:50 PM   #560
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Bail.

Unless he's hot.
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Ball.

Unless he's not.
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:47 PM   #562
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Two schools of thought on this one.
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Old 07-02-2014, 11:51 PM   #563
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I didn't actually see him without his sunglasses on. (But in his defense, it was a gorgeous sunny day and we were outside the whole time.)

The end of the book did have an intriguing twist (although one I should have seen coming). If I had one iota of sympathy for the main character, I'd read the next book.
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According to goodreads, I've finished reading 48 novels since I started college. I don't know if that's a good number or not, for someone that wants to become a novelist, it seems a little low to me. I really should read more.

It took me a while, but after months of letting them hang around, I tore through The Black Dahlia, American Psycho and Nausea this week. Pretty heavy reading. Black Dahlia was a keeper, I can't wait to get started on the rest of the LA Quartet. American Psycho was far more vivid, detailed and significant than Less Than Zero, but the gore was too much for me and I'm not especially sensitive to that sort of thing. It became so pervasive that it took away from the story and what little character development there was. Still some great stuff in there. Fucking hilarious in spots. Nausea was too theory-dense to really allow the story to breathe, but I was impressed by Sartre's wonderful command of language. It had some lovely passages and was mercifully brief, but it's not something I'll likely come back to.

Now I'm working on Trainspotting, Altered Carbon and Dune. I'm about a quarter of the way through Trainspotting. The characters are as vile and hysterical as I remembered them being. Good stuff so far. The Scottish dialect takes some getting used to, but it does add to the personality of the characters.
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The Big Nowhere is my favourite in the Quartet. Dudley Smith is a fantastic villain. LA Confidential is one of those examples where I actually prefer the movie, although I liked the book. It's a very convoluted novel, and the film did a very good job of cutting a lot of the stuff that just seemed to unnecessarily prolong the story. White Jazz is the first example of Ellroy's verbless staccato prose, and it did take some time to get used to, but it presents a fitting closure to the material.

The Underworld USA Trilogy is just as good, if not better. At least I think so, since I never finished Blood's a Rover for some reason (maybe because it did get a bit repetitive in terms of new characters having similar fetishes and eccentricities as the old ones). But the first two parts are excellent, especially American Tabloid. A lot of people hate The Cold Six Thousand due to its hyperactive staccato style, but it has a great pay-off and some of the Tabloid characters actually get more intriguing and three-dimensional as the story reaches its end.

I loved American Psycho when I read it quite some time ago, although I vividly remember it started to run out of steam by the last third. For me, the violence was simply too cartoonish to take it seriously, which might have been Ellis' point. But it was pretty hilarious, especially in the first half. Another example where I think the movie was at least on par with the book.
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Love Ellroy. Still haven't read Blood's A Rover yet, though I've owned it for a while.

Black Dahlia is probably my favorite, but it might just be because of that final line.

The whole quartet is fantastic.
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I thought trainspotting was alright. Not half as difficult to read as people made it out to be. It's not Finnegan's Wake, at least.

Hated the constant italics in American Psycho so much that it made me really despise the book. I sort of disliked it in general (whereas I liked the movie), but italicizing everything struck me as one of the cheapest, lamest things possible to lean on for stylistic emphasis that even if I was to come around to the novel itself, I'd never get past that nonsense.
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I thought trainspotting was alright. Not half as difficult to read as people made it out to be. It's not Finnegan's Wake, at least.
Seriously, I can read it at my normal speed and hardly lose out on anything. It looked like a different language for a couple of seconds, but it's not like there's a massive vocabulary of dialectal variations here. Your brain adjusts fairly quickly.
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Seriously, I can read it at my normal speed and hardly lose out on anything. It looked like a different language for a couple of seconds, but it's not like there's a massive vocabulary of dialectal variations here. Your brain adjusts fairly quickly.
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Holy cow. For the first time in a very, very, very long time, I quit reading a book because it sucked. At Home in Mitford, by Jan Karon, was the book. I read that she was inspired by Miss Read, one of my very favorite authors; they both write "small-town" kinds of books. The big difference? Miss Read can write. She has plots, characters that do things, wry humor, realistic situations, contemporary (for the times) issues, all tightly, cleverly, well written. Jan Karon, not so much. This was the first one in the series, and I can be forgiving with authors just starting. JK Rowling, for instance. Her first few chapters in her first Harry Potter kind of bumble along, but at least she had a clear plot and interesting shit was going on. In this book today, by page 70, I was done. Nothing was going on that meant anything, the dialogue was stilted and lame, the characters were out of a creative writing handbook, as was the setting. Sheesh. I'm kind of a hard-ass, but reading this right after some Trollope, who is a master at character creation, was too much.


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