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Old 10-10-2014, 06:54 PM   #811
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All that said, I really recommend the Westmalle Dubbel. I liked it a lot more than the Tripel (which is still a really good beer).
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Wasn't huge on the wit, but have gotten a lot of legs out of the Abt 12. That beer is ridiculous.
Abt 12 is great. I also enjoyed their Christmas Ale.



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All that said, I really recommend the Westmalle Dubbel. I liked it a lot more than the Tripel (which is still a really good beer).
I have access to that so I'll try it.

You probably have tried the Rochefort 6, 8, and 10. If not definitely seek it out.
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Abt 12 is great. I also enjoyed their Christmas Ale.





I have access to that so I'll try it.

You probably have tried the Rochefort 6, 8, and 10. If not definitely seek it out.
Haven't had the Xmas - sometimes hard to find the seasonal beers where I am. Delerium Noel is available from time to time.

The Rochefort beers are glorious. I loved the 6 and 10, the 8 I found a bit confused. I think for some reason it doesn't carry the alcohol, but the 10 is so saturated with alcohol it works. Does that make sense? With how amazing the Westvleteren 8 was, I can only imagine how amazing the 12 must be.
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Haven't had the Xmas - sometimes hard to find the seasonal beers where I am. Delerium Noel is available from time to time.

The Rochefort beers are glorious. I loved the 6 and 10, the 8 I found a bit confused. I think for some reason it doesn't carry the alcohol, but the 10 is so saturated with alcohol it works. Does that make sense? With how amazing the Westvleteren 8 was, I can only imagine how amazing the 12 must be.
We are like opposite beer tasters. I learned to like the Rochefort 10 (but it seemed extremely boozy when I first tried it) but I loved the 8 the most because of it's aroma. 6 was nice but it was too watered down. I never saw the Westvleteren 8 but I had the 12 and it was rich and delicious with champagne bubbles. It's probably the best beer I've had but Rochfort 8 is a competitor for me.

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Trappist beer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I still have quite a few I haven't tried:

Brasserie d'Orval
Brouwerij de Koningshoeven (La Trappe)
Stift Engelszell Austria
St. Joseph’s Abbey (Spencer)
Brouwerij Abdij Maria Toevlucht (Zundert)
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Old 10-10-2014, 07:28 PM   #815
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We are like opposite beer tasters. I learned to like the Rochefort 10 (but it seemed extremely boozy when I first tried it) but I loved the 8 the most because of it's aroma. 6 was nice but it was too watered down. I never saw the Westvleteren 8 but I had the 12 and it was rich and delicious with champagne bubbles. It's probably the best beer I've had but Rochfort 8 is a competitor for me.

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Trappist beer - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I still have quite a few I haven't tried:

Brasserie d'Orval
Brouwerij de Koningshoeven (La Trappe)
Stift Engelszell Austria
St. Joseph’s Abbey (Spencer)
Brouwerij Abdij Maria Toevlucht (Zundert)

You have to try Orval. Amazing. They print the bottle dates, so try and get a bottle with 3 or 4 years on it.


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Wasn't huge on the wit, but have gotten a lot of legs out of the Abt 12. That beer is ridiculous.

Wits for me are Hoegaarden as a weekday beer (less than $1.70 a bottle in a case at Costco), and for something nicer the Blanche de Namur. If they put too much of the gruit in they can taste really soapy, and I seem to have a hyper-sensitivity to it in witbier.
I'm late to this thread and am not going to trawl though 50 odd pages so apologies if it's already mentioned, if you're after a wheat beer then hunt down 'Erdinger'
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I'm late to this thread and am not going to trawl though 50 odd pages so apologies if it's already mentioned, if you're after a wheat beer then hunt down 'Erdinger'
Erdinger is good German beer, along with Weihenstephaner.

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You have to try Orval. Amazing. They print the bottle dates, so try and get a bottle with 3 or 4 years on it.
Thanks for the tip. I may have seen the label before but didn't look for it specifically.
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I'm surprised Orval is one you haven't had, since it was the first Travis and I tried.
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Orval is easily my favourite of the non-'icon' Trappists. (So not rochefort, Chimay or Westvleteren. Just a different drinking experience.


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Tsing Tao is like skunky urine.
Tsing Tao is drinkable, though yes, bad. Try Tappeto Volante and you'll agree the latter is much worse.

And I genuinely enjoy PBR. Don't ever buy it here because it's like $50 a slab compared with less than a dollar a 500ml can in the States, but yeah. Good cheap session drinking beer.
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Tsing Tao is drinkable, though yes, bad. Try Tappeto Volante and you'll agree the latter is much worse.

And I genuinely enjoy PBR. Don't ever buy it here because it's like $50 a slab compared with less than a dollar a 500ml can in the States, but yeah. Good cheap session drinking beer.
God if it's worse than Tsing Tao then put it back in the horse!

Well I just found a new store that opened and have an excuse to go. I got an Orval and a whole bunch of other goodies. It didn't look like it was with a bottle date but it was the only one there. I'm still angry that I have to rely on eBay for California IPAs. Oh well, according to the staff I'm not the only one hooked on the Super Conductor Double IPA. Good New Zealand beer! Hops and pine needles! It’s a good replacement.

De Molen Rasputin 3.5/5: Strange stout. It has stout qualities but the chocolate helps give it a Coca Cola texture. It's easy to drink. This got a 99 on Ratebeer. The bottle demands that it be served at 10 C. It doesn’t blow me away but that’s personal taste.

Orval 4/5: Very aromatic. It’s a like a formaldehyde grandmother with perfume…in a good way. Really funky and reminds me of some Belgian fruit drinks or French cider drinks without the fruit and the quality ingredients really come out. There is a bit of a banana note but not overwhelming. I can tell there’s some hops in there. It’s quite dry like a dry wine. It’s not my style to put it in the Rochfort and Westvletaren territory but I can see why people like it. It’s complex. It’s like funkiness and then perfume appears after the funkiness. It reminds me of smelling Jennifer Lawrence’s nails in American Hustle. The final swallow was actually quite good. I’m wondering if this is a beer that should be drunk slowly like a decanted wine.

Schneider Weisse Aventinus (Tap 6) 4/5: Rate beer has this as 100, whatever. It’s a BBQ sauce beer with cloves. It’s a little spicy and the cloves just come out and take over. I would love to drink this with Tony Roma’s ribs or a peppercorn steak. I’m not sure I would want to return to this beer but I can’t help but feel that the cloves and “tomato sauce?” are fun. BBQ sauce and tomato sauce.

I think I know my limit. 3 bottles of beer and I’m hammered. That might be pathetic but that’s how it is.
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God if it's worse than Tsing Tao then put it back in the horse!

Well I just found a new store that opened and have an excuse to go. I got an Orval and a whole bunch of other goodies. It didn't look like it was with a bottle date but it was the only one there. I'm still angry that I have to rely on eBay for California IPAs. Oh well, according to the staff I'm not the only one hooked on the Super Conductor Double IPA. Good New Zealand beer! Hops and pine needles! It’s a good replacement.

De Molen Rasputin 3.5/5: Strange stout. It has stout qualities but the chocolate helps give it a Coca Cola texture. It's easy to drink. This got a 99 on Ratebeer. The bottle demands that it be served at 10 C. It doesn’t blow me away but that’s personal taste.

Orval 4/5: Very aromatic. It’s a like a formaldehyde grandmother with perfume…in a good way. Really funky and reminds me of some Belgian fruit drinks or French cider drinks without the fruit and the quality ingredients really come out. There is a bit of a banana note but not overwhelming. I can tell there’s some hops in there. It’s quite dry like a dry wine. It’s not my style to put it in the Rochfort and Westvletaren territory but I can see why people like it. It’s complex. It’s like funkiness and then perfume appears after the funkiness. It reminds me of smelling Jennifer Lawrence’s nails in American Hustle. The final swallow was actually quite good. I’m wondering if this is a beer that should be drunk slowly like a decanted wine.

Schneider Weisse Aventinus (Tap 6) 4/5: Rate beer has this as 100, whatever. It’s a BBQ sauce beer with cloves. It’s a little spicy and the cloves just come out and take over. I would love to drink this with Tony Roma’s ribs or a peppercorn steak. I’m not sure I would want to return to this beer but I can’t help but feel that the cloves and “tomato sauce?” are fun. BBQ sauce and tomato sauce.

I think I know my limit. 3 bottles of beer and I’m hammered. That might be pathetic but that’s how it is.
It's ok I will drink the other 21 in the case for you.
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It's ok I will drink the other 21 in the case for you.
You must have an amazing liver. My doctor said it was only average.
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I have an empty bottle of Orval on my shelf, the only one I've drank. It's delicious.
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Westmalle dubbel 4.5/5: Really good dark beer. This is very similar to the Rochefort beers. Aromatic dark beer. I'm eating a sandwich to get through the 4th pint + listening to Crystal Ballroom.
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