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Just in tears of laughter at the first newspoll. Too many words have been spilled about Rudd-Gillard-Rudd but this is at the very least an equally bad self-own, if not significantly worse.

As he acknowledged himself, he could easily have picked Labor. For all their sins, it is to their great good fortune that he did not.

Got a source for this?

I daresay he would have fared much better as an ALP politician, but then again I think he would have precluded himself from ever making anything of it because of his business interests... not sure unions could ever have warmed to him.
 
Oh this is definitely a bigger self-own than any previous spill, by a mile. At least all of the previous spills had a semblance of sensible rationale, the main problem being that Gillard and her allies unjustifiably struggled to explain the 2010 spill - they made a hash of that.

This spill is plain idiocy and Dan Tehan's hilarious interview with Leigh Sales on Friday really summed it up. Why change? "We need a new generation of leaders." How come? "Because the party room decided." Why? "Because we need a new generation of leaders." How come? "Because the party room..."
 
*new generation of leaders + the exhumed corpse of the dead, buried and cremated Abbott
 
Just in tears of laughter at the first newspoll. Too many words have been spilled about Rudd-Gillard-Rudd but this is at the very least an equally bad self-own, if not significantly worse.



Got a source for this?

I daresay he would have fared much better as an ALP politician, but then again I think he would have precluded himself from ever making anything of it because of his business interests... not sure unions could ever have warmed to him.

Do I have a specific source, no, not right this minute. But I've read about it, and not just once. Behind the scenes, in the post-republican-movement period, I gather that he was being courted by both parties to some extent. There was also an interview years back, maybe back as far as the eighties, about his future political trajectory. To the question of whether Labor or Liberal, his answer was 'doesn't matter'.

I've also read that Tony Abbott considered Labor at one time (I can only guess that was in his Bob Santamaria days, he would have been a DLP type in disguise) . You'd be surprised.
 
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Yes, I recall the ALP-Turnbull vignette as well.

And let's not forget Brendan Nelson, he who copped the doomed post-Howard leadership of the Liberals, began his political life as a fully-fledged member of the ALP.
 
Yeah, poor old Brendan really wound up in the wrong scene. I can remember him sitting in the gutter at 5am trying to right the wrongs of the world... as Liberal Party leader.
 
Must admit this Wentworth byelection strikes me as much ado about nothing. It's fun to watch Malcolm Turnbull's parting fuck-you (insofar as he isn't lifting a finger to help, and why would he, plus his son is publicly off the reservation), and the schadenfreude of the Liberals losing the seat would be equally entertaining.

However...

While in theory the government falls if Wentworth goes (or does it, I don't keep up with the seat totals; at any rate we must be getting pretty close to running out of rubber at this point), we all know that Kerryn Phelps, for all her bleating about the refugees and climate change, would grant supply to the Coalition in the event. It's just that kind of community. Just like the equally useless member for Indi. So who gives a shit. Bring on the general election.
 
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Melbourne people, ChargedVT is coming to town on the 2nd of Feb and we're off to see a tribute band play Rattle And Hum if anyone fancies joining us or just meeting up for a drink before/after if you can't be arsed with the gig?

We went to see them do The Joshua Tree a couple of years ago and it was pretty great. Good excuse to just have a few drinks and forget that the real U2 couldn't give a tinker's toss about this country.
 
Wouldn't it be funny if an Australian U2 tribute band started regularly touring pubs in the States and Europe, while the 'real thing' can't be bothered shipping their oxygen tent over here.
 
He kind of lives here lol. I went out drinking with my housemate one night, and he was there, he’s good mates with my housemate. We had no idea who each other were. But then I started banging on about U2 to be a dickhead and he was like... you don’t post on a U2 forum do you...
 
He kind of lives here lol. I went out drinking with my housemate one night, and he was there, he’s good mates with my housemate. We had no idea who each other were. But then I started banging on about U2 to be a dickhead and he was like... you don’t post on a U2 forum do you...
Hahaha I heard about that!
You should come out if you're around
 
I've seen this band twice, and they're not too bad given how many different songs they have to learn. The first show they played Achtung Baby in full and So Cruel was the highlight.

The other show was promoted as a 'rarities' show. I wrote down the setlist (if anyone ever looked at the Your 2018 Concert Calendar thread, I've posted it in there, but I'll spoiler tag it again below). I don't know if I'll be able to brave Yarraville for their next show though.

1. I Will Follow
2. Mysterious Ways
3. New Year's Day
4. Angel of Harlem
5. Trying to Throw Your Arms Around the World
6. Until the End of the World
7. One / Unchained Melody
8. Sunday Bloody Sunday / Fuck The Revolution speech

9. Where the Streets Have no Name / Popmart-style outro
10. I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For
11. Trip Through Your Wires
12. One Tree Hill
13. Silver and Gold / Don't Mean to Bug Ya speech
14. Please
15. A Sort of Homecoming
16. The Unforgettable Fire

17. Vertigo
18. Beautiful Day
19. Get Out of Your Own Way
20. Iris
21. Discotheque
22. Pride
23. With or Without You / Shine Like Stars
24. All I Want is You / Sexual Healing / Walk on the Wild Side
25. The Electric Co. / America / Send in the Clowns
26. 11 O'Clock Tick Tock
27. Party Girl
28. Desire
 
I could roll with it if the frontman had conviction. Even the whole rap about little Stevie and Artists Against Apartheid!

And while they fail to support a man like Bishop Tutu
and his request for economic sanctions against Israel, I mean South Africa
am I buggin you
 
I haven’t seen a U2 tribute band in years - not since last decade. I was at the Irish Times a few weeks back,where I saw the Aus U2 Show a couple of times and reminded me that I should really do it again.
 
Well then come along on the 2nd if you fancy it? Having said that...

Fuck The Revolution speech
Don't Mean to Bug Ya speech

christ...that's going to be a bit weird. nice to know exactly when to duck out to the bar, I suppose?

He kind of lives here lol. I went out drinking with my housemate one night, and he was there, he’s good mates with my housemate. We had no idea who each other were. But then I started banging on about U2 to be a dickhead and he was like... you don’t post on a U2 forum do you...

Haha the weird thing is I recognised you from a photo on here, but thought I'd better wait for the right moment to bring it up. Luckily took you about 30 seconds to call Coldplay a pale imitation of U2 to rile the table up and we were away! :wink: still makes me laugh thinking about it though, small fucking world...i'm here another month so we do need to get that drink at some point.
 
I voted early today. My God the Senate paper was grim. Just diabolical.

There's Labor, and then there's the Greens (and even them I'm ambivalent on)... and then there is a galaxy of every rightwing nutter outfit you can think of, some branded with the founder's name, some named after old parties your grandparents remember, some with wholly misleading names (do I dare to take a guess at who the Workers Party are?). I see Fuck Off We're Full and the Citizens Electoral Council are still hanging in there.

No sure what to make of this. It's indicative of massive egos on the far right, to be sure... but of course they feed off each other too. On the left, or whatever passes for that these days, I'm thinking everyone's lining up behind Labor and clearing the runway. Hence no Spartacist League, Socialist Democratic Party, Democratic Socialist Progress Party, Judean People's Socialist Alternative etc etc.
 
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I'm not looking forward to filling out the Senate paper where the Liberals will end up in the middle of the pack as a result of the dozen far-right parties we seem to have now.
 
That's the trouble! And even worse for my lower house seat. I dearly wanted to put the sitting LNP member in this (ultra safe) seat dead last. But I couldn't.

I just couldn't.
 
Heh, further to my posting yesterday, the Workers Party actually don't sound too bad.

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2019/may/10/australian-election-2019-full-list-of-micro-parties-standing-in-the-senate

I was so battle scarred from perusing the rest of the form that I just thought to myself 'oh, 'Workers Party'... is this one of those volkish outfits that say they're for the worker but actually support free market boosterism and are basically fixated on a few hot button culture war issues like... well, you know, like all the rest of these freaks?" I'll admit I was having visions of beer halls.

Too bad.
 
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Would anybody be willing to stump up some cash for me to stand at the next election on an 'Army Of The Twelve Monkeys' ticket? (Guardian writeup: "exactly what it sounds like.")
 
Yeah the Workers Party actually aren't bad, and there's some group called the Together Party running in NSW that seems pretty social democratic.

But most of it is super racist crazy bullshit. Culleton's Great Australian Party is straight up sovereign citizen madness, and Anning's Conservative National Party is explicitly keen on white supremacy.
 
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