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Old 09-29-2016, 08:11 AM   #691
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Sounds like a surprisingly interesting guy.
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Old 09-29-2016, 08:13 AM   #692
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He's probably on George Brandis's watchlist now or something; wasn't the grand plan to make travelling to any of these places illegal?
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Well if it was a brown kid instead of Wyatt Roy he'd have his passport destroyed.
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Old 09-29-2016, 07:25 PM   #694
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Seriously, what was he even thinking? What an idiot.
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Old 09-30-2016, 07:09 AM   #695
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I don't see what's so wrong with it?!
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Old 09-30-2016, 08:37 AM   #696
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I don't see what's NOT idiotic. At least when di Natale went to Liberia over ebola it was because he is a sitting MP with professional medical expertise. Wyatt Roy is an ex-MP with no relevant knowledge or experience (or former portfolio) to justify putting himself or - more importantly - others in serious danger, especially as he was using his former status in an entirely unofficial and unapproved manner. It's reckless, foolish, arrogant, and useless.

If he was an ex-ALP MP the Murdoch press would have called for him to have had his citizenship stripped already.
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Old 09-30-2016, 08:56 AM   #697
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Hey, T.E. Lawrence had no relevant experience. Not that I'm claiming quite that world-historical status for our Wyatt...
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Old 10-10-2016, 08:30 PM   #698
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The ALP has confirmed that it will block the marriage equality plebiscite bill.

Meanwhile, Nationals MPs Andrew Broad and George "please give me the title of Biggest Fuckwit in Parliament" Christensen now say they will withdraw support for the government if Turnbull proceeds with a parliamentary vote on marriage equality. This would remove the Coalition's majority. Assuming the entire crossbench voted with the ALP in a vote of no confidence, it would succeed.

I've said for a while that the Nats need to find their identity and assert it against the Libs, but I never meant in this manner.
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Old 10-10-2016, 08:35 PM   #699
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Neither of them can hold a candle to Eric Abetz. Media bias means people who switch from homosexual to heterosexual aren't celebrated: Eric Abetz
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Just thinking about this further, Turnbull could call the bluff of Broad and Christensen and bring on a parliamentary vote.

If Broad and Christensen cross the floor to support a vote of no confidence, almost the entire crossbench will have to also support it. If two of them don't (let's say Katter and McGowan), the government survives 75-74. If there is an MP missing and the vote is deadlocked, the government survives by the speaker's casting vote. That's convention, but with a Liberal speaker it's assured.

And even if there is a successful vote of no confidence, who would form government? Broad and Christensen won't side with the ALP. I suppose what it would do is force Turnbull to step down... but then who's left? Abbott hasn't got sufficient support to come back. JBish? ScoMo? ScoMo is a rat and would do the dirty on anyone but it may not yet be his time and he's cunning enough not to time his run too early. JBish is the sort of person who's quite ready to let everybody else fall and be the last one standing, but she's perhaps seen as too much on Turnbull's side. Soooo... who else is there? Lunatics, by and large, and doubtfully anyone with sufficiently broad support. This is a hilariously divided party.

PS Eric Abetz can get fucked ten ways from Sunday.
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I assume an actual successful vote of no confidence (I'll believe that when I see it) would force an election in the event? Maybe I'm missing something. Maybe if the numbers were there for enough (ie. total) crossbench support to allow a Labor administration to move in, but those numbers are not there.
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An election would only be necessary if no party can command a majority on the floor. I suspect the ALP would fall short at 73 maximum, because if the two rogue Nats decide they won't support Turnbull they sure as shit won't be supporting a party with a policy in favour of marriage equality. Assuming only Katter broke for the Libs from the crossbench they would fall one short on 74 - which is without the speaker's vote, as that is only used in a tie and it's hard to believe anybody would miss a no confidence vote as crucial as this scenario would be (unless they're dying in hospital and even then they might get a pair).

The GG in those circumstances would then dissolve parliament, so I expect at least one other crossbencher to blink and the government (but probably not Turnbull) to survive. Or the rogue Nats would come back into the fold before it's too late for the government/Turnbull. Do you really want to be the MPs who brought down your own government? Especially if your party loses seats? How would you be able to ever show your face in the party with people scowling at you that "hey fuckwit, your support for a no confidence vote cost Bob his seat at the election".
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Perrett's facial expressions are priceless.

I am also now going to petition my head of department to rename his first year course "Who Gets the Girl?"
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Old 10-11-2016, 12:40 AM   #705
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An election would only be necessary if no party can command a majority on the floor. I suspect the ALP would fall short at 73 maximum, because if the two rogue Nats decide they won't support Turnbull they sure as shit won't be supporting a party with a policy in favour of marriage equality. Assuming only Katter broke for the Libs from the crossbench they would fall one short on 74 - which is without the speaker's vote, as that is only used in a tie and it's hard to believe anybody would miss a no confidence vote as crucial as this scenario would be (unless they're dying in hospital and even then they might get a pair).

The GG in those circumstances would then dissolve parliament, so I expect at least one other crossbencher to blink and the government (but probably not Turnbull) to survive. Or the rogue Nats would come back into the fold before it's too late for the government/Turnbull. Do you really want to be the MPs who brought down your own government? Especially if your party loses seats? How would you be able to ever show your face in the party with people scowling at you that "hey fuckwit, your support for a no confidence vote cost Bob his seat at the election".
Well indeed, which much of that is why I say I'll believe it when I see it. The Christiansens of this world are blowhards who would have literally no careers outside of the Liberal-National coalition.
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