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Old 06-06-2016, 09:41 PM   #31
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I'm really interested in the three-cornered races this year to see how many Lib preferences go to the Nats and vice versa, and how many leak elsewhere. For instance, I expect Indi to be very interesting. It's going to be McGowan vs boorish Nat, so Mirabella will come third. Lib HTVs will suggest preferences to the Nats, but how many will break to McGowan? I am worried that Indi will return to the Coalition, because McGowan did pick up a fairly sizeable vote in 2013 of people who hated Mirabella and didn't have a Nat to vote for instead.
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Bill's really grown accustomed to using the phrase 'the truth of the matter is' on a constant basis.
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I'm really interested in the three-cornered races this year to see how many Lib preferences go to the Nats and vice versa, and how many leak elsewhere. For instance, I expect Indi to be very interesting. It's going to be McGowan vs boorish Nat, so Mirabella will come third. Lib HTVs will suggest preferences to the Nats, but how many will break to McGowan? I am worried that Indi will return to the Coalition, because McGowan did pick up a fairly sizeable vote in 2013 of people who hated Mirabella and didn't have a Nat to vote for instead.
I'm so out of the loop that I thought the Coalition had put three-cornered-contests behind them to some extent. Shows what I know I guess. Well in Indi, who knows what might happen. I could be wrong but I have read whisperings of discontent about McGowan since she got in (ie. her siding with the Abbott government on most matters; that is not what a lot of her supporters put her in there for).
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Bill's really grown accustomed to using the phrase 'the truth of the matter is' on a constant basis.
He has? I hadn't noticed. Then again, I don't watch TV anymore. Oh, I watch certain isolated shows that I hear about, but not tv, tv.
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I'm so out of the loop that I thought the Coalition had put three-cornered-contests behind them to some extent. Shows what I know I guess. Well in Indi, who knows what might happen. I could be wrong but I have read whisperings of discontent about McGowan since she got in (ie. her siding with the Abbott government on most matters; that is not what a lot of her supporters put her in there for).
I actually thought the discontent ran the other way, that there was suspicion she had too much sympathy with urban lefties (there were definitely a bunch of city-dwelling kids born in Indi who went back there in 2013 to work on her campaign) and a worry that in a hung parliament she would side with the ALP. At any rate, Mirabella's attempt to return to politics is already dead with the Coalition putting all its energy into the Nat guy, name I forget, fuckwit who once ran for Family First and made a comment about how some voters would be pleased to vote for a man.

And the Coalition permit three-cornered contests when there is no incumbent member of either party. So they don't run against sitting members of the other party but that's it. (Which gets back to a similar arrangement being unsuitable for the Greens.)
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He has? I hadn't noticed. Then again, I don't watch TV anymore. Oh, I watch certain isolated shows that I hear about, but not tv, tv.
He uses this phrase frequently in his press conferences. As if, 'oh wow! This works great!'
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I'm going to the absolute shit out of this. It's going to be fucking insane.

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Old 06-07-2016, 03:55 AM   #39
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That could actually be rather entertaining. It's a pretty decent lineup. I'm tempted.
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Sweet.

I'll be hosting a colleague visiting from South Africa but I'm sure he can entertain himself for one evening. Or he might even be interested, since he did his PhD in Sydney and we bonded over a shared interest in political history.
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The Family First bloke was obviously coaxed into it. A debate in the middle of the city against a stack of liberals with what will be a liberal crowd? Idiot.
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Old 06-07-2016, 04:52 AM   #43
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Nah he's got Jacqui Lambie to team up with. She may be most surprising, because not only will the crowd be hostile to her like the Fundies First bloke, but she's also a popular figure of fun.
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https://www.pedestrian.tv/news/arts-...faad611909.htm

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I actually thought the discontent ran the other way, that there was suspicion she had too much sympathy with urban lefties (there were definitely a bunch of city-dwelling kids born in Indi who went back there in 2013 to work on her campaign) and a worry that in a hung parliament she would side with the ALP. At any rate, Mirabella's attempt to return to politics is already dead with the Coalition putting all its energy into the Nat guy, name I forget, fuckwit who once ran for Family First and made a comment about how some voters would be pleased to vote for a man.

And the Coalition permit three-cornered contests when there is no incumbent member of either party. So they don't run against sitting members of the other party but that's it. (Which gets back to a similar arrangement being unsuitable for the Greens.)
Ok, that refreshes my memory on the three cornered contests thing, I figured it must have been something like that.

I don't get these voters freaking out over their rural independents siding with the ALP on things. The potential must be understood to exist for that to happen. If they want a Coalition MP they should vote for one (and until the Gillard period, they seemed happy to stick with the independent in New England), with all that entails.
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