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Old 06-30-2016, 07:26 AM   #301
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It's been a marathon alright.

I kid, I kid, I thank you for putting in the hard yards, as they say, and now I feel genuinely better informed across the board than I might have done. And also a little depressed.
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:37 AM   #302
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Thanks, I've really enjoyed writing it, even if it felt at times like I'd never finish - and I think I got obviously grumpier as it went along. In compiling the index I realised a couple of parties I reviewed earlier I gave more lenient recommendations than I would right now, and parties I reviewed late might have got off lighter earlier.

This evening I feel weird without anything to review, so I've been tinkering with my preferences, in particular reordering ALP and Coalition candidates to put at the bottom of the respective slates their candidates from the Shoppies and IPA.
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Old 06-30-2016, 07:52 AM   #303
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That's the trouble with attempting to give every single preference you're allowed below the line, rather than stopping at 20 or 30; you'd just about need an almanac in the booth with you to make sure you're across all the Shoppies and IPA stooges and Opus Dei operatives.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:05 AM   #304
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Haha. It wasn't that hard though to pick up those with the most undesirable links. And the ALP and Coalition are the only two really worth reordering, outside of some very obvious exceptions: e.g. I put Ricky Muir a bit higher than his running mate. I don't care for his party but I want him personally ahead of Derryn Hinch. Can't see Muir abusing parliamentary privilege like Hinch will.
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Old 06-30-2016, 08:32 AM   #305
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Yeah, Muir has been one of those surprises that preference whispering occasionally throws up.

I suppose one thing I'd say about the Shoppies in the ALP and the IPA mob in the Coalition is that in both cases I expect them to vote the party line in most matters. So you know, less surprises unless one of them ascends to ministerial office or unless a conscience vote comes up.
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Old 06-30-2016, 09:09 AM   #306
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My main concern, more with the IPA types, is that within the party they can seek to skew the party line. MPs from the Shoppies can be a bit unlikeable but do usually have some genuine concern for economic justice, especially those from the Catholic left of the union. But the IPA shills are neoliberal hacks through and through.
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I suppose, though, for those who define "left wing" as having some active identification with the working class, as some hardcore Labourites do, I fail that test.
There don't seem to be too many of those left wing Labourites, as you say, these days. I can only really think of Van Badham (inb4 Cobbler ) as far as fairly public figures go.
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Old 06-30-2016, 10:32 AM   #308
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But the IPA shills are neoliberal hacks through and through.
Agreed, but I feel that ship has pretty much sailed, where the Liberal Party / LNP whatever we're calling it this week is concerned.
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Christ she's rubbish. Was the world's most passionate Greens shill then did a complete 180 when the "Greens will preference the Libs" shit came out and has been ALP ever since, despite the fact her main reason for supporting the Greens (as is many people's) being their anti-detention stance. Her brother is head of our union.
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Christ she's rubbish. Was the world's most passionate Greens shill then did a complete 180 when the "Greens will preference the Libs" shit came out and has been ALP ever since, despite the fact her main reason for supporting the Greens (as is many people's) being their anti-detention stance. Her brother is head of our union.
This fucking cracks me up. Especially since we've had the whole "Greens doing deals with the Libs, how terrible!" thing alongside "Greens put the Libs last after the Christian Democrats in Sydney, how terrible!" Make up your mind, critics: they can't put the Libs last and put the crazy fundies beneath them.

In any case I've basically stopped reading her articles because they've got so predictable.
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Old 06-30-2016, 10:37 PM   #311
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Who's she, the cat's mother? Who are you guys even talking about?
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I wish she had never blocked me. Her Twitter feed was incredibly entertaining.

In more amazing news, Twitter changed the little icon at the end of the AusVotes hashtag from a ballot box to a sausage in bread.

What time are you voting on Sat Ax? Might walk down with you.
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What time are you voting on Sat Ax? Might walk down with you.
I usually go around 11. Seems like a good time for a snag.
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Perfect time for a snag. Depends how drunk I get tonight.
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Ha I'd say the same, but I think tonight I'll be going easy on the liver ahead of a marathon drinking session tomorrow night.
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