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Old 06-22-2016, 09:20 AM   #211
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You can see the Milky Way pretty much anywhere that isn't a city. Drive fifteen minutes out of Sydney (wherever that is at this point, halfway to Lake Eyre) and there you go.
I knew we should've taken that train to Katoomba in the blue mountains!

I didn't drive when I was there, so this would've been a good option to get out into the countryside I guess. But then we would have had to take a hotel room for the night and stuff.
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Oh well, there's every chance that the Milky Way is visible from all sorts of places on this planet.
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That reminds me; I thought more than once that certain rightwing cranks' dreams of creating an inland Australian sea could one day be turned to the purposes of ameliorating climate-change-induced sea level rise. Simply delve great channels at both the Gulf and the Bight to flood an inland sea basin. Downsides: ruinously expensive, tectonically unpredictable, fucking insane. But I've patented the idea.
Haha somehow I'm picturing a doughnut-shaped Australia outline with a sea hole in the middle now.
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Old 06-22-2016, 09:27 AM   #214
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Oh well, there's every chance that the Milky Way is visible from all sorts of places on this planet.
There are actually plenty of stargazing hotspots here in South Africa but I believe Australia's got the better view.
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...e_iOSApp_Other

We all knew the Australian state were very selective on who can visit Nauru, but good to hear we've more confirmation.
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We all knew the Australian state were very selective on who can visit Nauru, but good to hear we've more confirmation.
Well sure. Nauru, what is Nauru? It's a protectorate of the Australian government. At best.
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Haha somehow I'm picturing a doughnut-shaped Australia outline with a sea hole in the middle now.
As are my patent attorneys!
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Ax, can you please post the link to your party reviews? I'm keen to peruse.


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Old 06-22-2016, 07:16 PM   #219
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He probably could but anyway I have it.
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Ha, cheers. Tonight's batch of three includes our mate Xenophon.

I also need to frantically write some more reviews because there isn't much left in my queue... so many damn parties, increasingly little time.

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Hey you've got to vacation somewhere.

As it happens, I once went to Sydney, but in reality I only really saw Newtown because that's where the people I was visiting lived. It was ok. Streets, buildings, you know.
Newtown: almost like a decent Melbourne suburb, but with crappier pubs and a nasty traffic sewer through the middle.

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My wife wanted to go to Uluru to see the milky way.

We ended up going to Sydney Observatory on a rainy night.

Oh well, maybe next time.
I've lived in this country for 19 years and I still haven't been to Uluru.

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That reminds me; I thought more than once that certain rightwing cranks' dreams of creating an inland Australian sea could one day be turned to the purposes of ameliorating climate-change-induced sea level rise. Simply delve great channels at both the Gulf and the Bight to flood an inland sea basin. Downsides: ruinously expensive, tectonically unpredictable, fucking insane. But I've patented the idea.
Hi CEC.

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We all knew the Australian state were very selective on who can visit Nauru, but good to hear we've more confirmation.
Probably the first time ACA has been called respectful and objective.
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25 and not been. I'd like to go one day, but it also makes me feel a little uncomfortable. I'm glad you can't scale it anymore.

The Milky Way is easy to see, you can even catch it in the city if it's a clear night.
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I'm glad you can't scale it anymore.
You still can.

Controversial opinion time: I'd climb it. Yes, I respect that the original inhabitants have cultural/religious reasons against it. But I don't follow their culture or religion. I don't observe the dictates of any other religious system, and from personal experience I know full well that most conceptions of Christianity have objections to most of my lifestyle. It's possible to respectfully disagree.

Of course there's the added complexity of 200 years of historic dispossession, but it would be hypocritical for me to treat religions differently.
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Old 06-22-2016, 11:32 PM   #223
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That's a bit strong isn't it mate? I mean, I don't have super-strong opinions about climbing Uluru, but the mere fact someone doesn't follow another belief system's worldview doesn't mean you could, for instance, take your motorbike for a spin through St Stephen's Cathedral or the Lakemba Mosque. Or use the vault for a cliff climbing practice session. I mean, you could, but it would be fairly prickish.
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Old 06-23-2016, 12:52 AM   #224
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I think the "riding a motorbike" comparison only really works if you were to ride a motorbike across Uluru too. I wouldn't ride a motorbike through St Stephen's, but I also wouldn't ride a motorbike across Uluru. I would go into St Stephen's to quietly and respectfully admire the architecture, artwork, etc., in the same way as I would climb a natural wonder to appreciate what is surely a breathtaking view from the top.

At the end of the day, if I don't share somebody's religious beliefs (which I don't, in all cases), then I am not going to follow the dictates of their religion.
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Old 06-23-2016, 12:59 AM   #225
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I probably misunderstood the intent your post, which was why I used variations on the analogy of trampling all over something. Like, fuck if it's sacred to someone, I'll do whatever the fuck I want with it - I see now that isn't actually what you meant. So if climbing a huge rock is meant in the sense of admiring it (as one would great architecture or whatever) well sure, I can see that.
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