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Old 05-12-2009, 03:43 PM   #16
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I am going to hell for this, but he is hot.

I will go to confessional later.
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Old 05-12-2009, 03:44 PM   #17
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You're not the first to suggest that...

I don't think there's anything wrong with finding a priest attractive. Knowingly going after him is a little bit dodgy though.
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Old 05-12-2009, 03:52 PM   #18
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Is that a real question? It's the Catholic church.

Who can be that naive to think that a grown man can live without a woman, without any other way to release the pressure and without a vasectomy? That's biologically impossible.
Jesus was not a Catholic and most likely would not have held the view that masturbation was sinful.
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Old 05-12-2009, 04:22 PM   #19
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Oh, in my remark I didn't have Jesus in mind. Rather the naivete, if indeed existent, that the priests, bishops etc. all follow the celibacy as they are meant to be. Should be common knowledge that that can't be the case and those people will find one way or another to deal with that biologic situation.
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i'd rather have priests having relationships with women than 10 year old boys.
exactly!!!!
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Does she have a son?
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Old 05-13-2009, 04:01 PM   #23
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my brother used to be a priest
he fell in love so told the bishop he had to quit
he was told if they kept it quiet it was no problem

my brother didn't want to keep his love hidden

his views on celibacy are somewhat complicated though
to be forced to live without a partner is asking too much
then again it is very difficult in this day and age to be a good priest for the people in your parish and at the same time have a partner who should also be your first priority


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^ I don't know about that; clergy of many other denominations manage the feat quite well all the time. My rabbi, who is married, certainly spends a lot of her time counseling and advising congregants on various issues, but not much more or less, I'd say, than the amount of time I as a professor spend on my students rather than my family. Realistically there just aren't that many occasions when the time conflicts become that dire. As with many other service-intensive careers, having an independent-minded spouse with whom you've mutually agreed that s/he will have primary caregiver responsibilities (for the children) is a huge help.
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I don't think it's so much a time management thing
it's more a matter of being in a position where people come to you with their biggest issues (which is something that apparently has increased now that society is less community based and more based on individuals) and while you have to carry all these stories around you can't share them with your partner because of privacy/confidentiality issues

I'm also sure some people are more able to work around that than others though
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it's more a matter of being in a position where people come to you with their biggest issues (which is something that apparently has increased now that society is less community based and more based on individuals) and while you have to carry all these stories around you can't share them with your partner because of privacy/confidentiality issues
That sounds like the life of a psychologist and a psychiatrist. Those people are not supposed to talk about their sessions with people at all. If they can do it, a priest could.
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That sounds like the life of a psychologist and a psychiatrist. Those people are not supposed to talk about their sessions with people at all. If they can do it, a priest could.
For them there is case supervision, sometimes mandatory, and you can easily make the people behind those cases anonymous.
For clergy of a small parish it's not that easy to make the cases anonymous, but whether with a partner or without they have to find ways to vent off and let things out that are overwhelming for them. And then a supportive spouse would definitely be of great help.
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That sounds like the life of a psychologist and a psychiatrist. Those people are not supposed to talk about their sessions with people at all. If they can do it, a priest could.
I guess the biggest difference is that psychologists and psychiatrist are trained not get personally attached with their patients while priests are expected to feel along on a more personal level

I'm also not saying that it's the same for every priest
as Vincent pointed out, some priests definitely would be helped to be able to have a supportive spouse when dealing with this sort of stuff
just that it is something I've heard before
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I am going to hell for this, but he is hot.

I will go to confessional later.
Ditto

Did you see him interviewed on the CBS Early Show?

Anyway..I think some aspects of celibacy are probably good, some aren't.
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I guess the biggest difference is that psychologists and psychiatrist are trained not get personally attached with their patients while priests are expected to feel along on a more personal level
Well, the relationships between a therapist and a patient do go far deeper and there is kind of a connection between both. Therapists are always struggling to keep the balance between being close enough and yet being distanced enough, but being personally attached is a common occurrence in a therapist's working experience. Hence the supervision.
A therapist who is too distanced from his patient and his experiences won't be able to treat his patient properly.
But I guess a psychologist/psychiatrist will be better trained to deal with such situations and there is a better supporting structure than there is for priests.
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