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Old 02-12-2010, 02:05 AM   #16
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Don't have a problem with gay men or lesbians.

It's just those god damn homeosexuals.









Support for Gays in the Military Depends on the Question -
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gay men and lesbians are terms that represent 'others' that are apart form me


homosexuals might try to have sex with me
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No, I get the difference in how the language is perceived, I just don't get the changes in numbers...

Why is "strongly favor" the opposite of the other numbers?
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homosexuals get 59% in favor and 29% opposed


gay men and lesbians get 70% in favor and 19% opposed
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Because homophobes are idiots.
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Because homophobes are idiots.


or at least "ignorant." there's no other explanation, is there?

and look at these poll numbers:

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75% back letting gays serve openly
By Ed O'Keefe and Jennifer Agiesta
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, February 12, 2010; A25

Three-quarters of Americans say that they support openly gay people serving in the U.S. military, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, a finding that could lend momentum to the Obama administration's effort to dismantle the policy known as "don't ask, don't tell."

The level of public support for allowing gay men and lesbians to serve openly far outpaces that in the spring of 1993, when Congress and the Clinton administration established the policy.

Civilian and military officials held their first meetings this week to begin a year-long review of "don't ask, don't tell," which forbids commanders to ask about service members' sexuality and requires the discharge of openly gay men and women. President Obama called for the policy's repeal last month in his State of the Union address, and the military's top civilian and military leadership has also expressed personal support for a repeal.

Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates last week appointed Gen. Carter F. Ham, commander of U.S. Army forces in Europe, and Jeh C. Johnson, Defense Department general counsel, lead a team to study a possible repeal.

Ham flew from Germany to Washington this week to meet with Johnson, according to senior defense officials, but most meetings were postponed because of the snowstorm that paralyzed the capital. They and their team hope to deliver recommendations to Gates by mid-March on how to revise the current policy to de-emphasize "third-party outings" -- when another person reveals a service member's homosexuality -- according to several military officials. The officials spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to speak on the record.

Once the study is complete, the Pentagon team will determine how best to survey active-duty service members and their families on any change in the policy. Some officials favor asking the Rand Corp. to provide an updated version of the 1993 study it conducted.

The percentage of Americans who say they support gays openly serving is the same as a Post-ABC News poll found in July 2008; both are far above the 44 percent who said so in May 1993. In the new poll, majorities across party lines favor such a policy, with support among Democrats (82 percent) and independents (77 percent) higher than among Republicans (64 percent).

The poll also reveals several sharp demographic divides. Men (65 percent) and seniors (69 percent) are far less likely than are women (84 percent) and young adults (81 percent under age 30) to say that gays should be allowed to serve if they have disclosed their sexual orientation. Knowing a gay person makes a big difference: Among those who say they have a gay friend or family member, 81 percent support allowing gay people to serve openly, compared with 66 percent who say they do not know someone who is gay.

The poll was conducted by telephone Feb. 4-8 among a random national sample of 1,004 adults, including users of both conventional and cellular phones. The margin of sampling error is plus or minus three percentage points.
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Saw Petraus on a Sunday morning news show. I think it's a done deal, they just trying to figure out how to implement it in the least disruptive manner as possible.
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^ saw the same, and agreed.
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Good to know there were such men "protecting" our country.


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Tennessee Republican congressional candidate Ron Kirkland recently said that when he served in the military during the Vietnam War, gay service members "were taken care of" in ways that he could not begin to describe.

Kirkland's candid remarks came at a Tea Party forum last week when the GOP hopeful criticized the Obama administration's support for overturning the "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy.

Conservative House candidate Randy Smith offered a similar reaction to the measure at the event when he declared he "wouldn't want to share a shower with a homosexual."

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Kirkland, a Vietnam veteran, said of his time in the military: "I can tell you if there were any homosexuals in that group, they were taken care of in ways I can't describe to you."

[Randy] Smith, who served in the first Iraqi war, added: "I definitely wouldn't want to share a shower with a homosexual. We took care of that kind of stuff, just like (Kirkland) said."

The candidates justified their opposition to repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" by arguing that ending the policy is simply a matter of "political correctness" that would place unneeded stress on military service members.

The Jackson Sun reports that both Kirkland and Smith faced a backlash after suggesting that gays were "taken care of" during their independent service experiences:

Comments Republican congressional candidates Dr. Ron Kirkland and Randy Smith made about gays being "taken care of" in the military at a forum Thursday night in Paris prompted a backlash against the two on Friday, with an official from a state gay rights group saying the candidates should apologize.

The Tennessee Republican Party reportedly had no comment on the candidates' comments related to repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" when asked about the matter by the AP.
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Tea baggers keeping it classy

Yeah, it's not about hate
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Yeah, it's not about hate
Or fear.
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glad to see they've always had such an inflated view of themselves. honey, just because someone's gay does not mean they will find you attractive. i'll never understand that part about homophobia. a straight female does not think every man she sees is hot, why would a gay male?
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because they are still - men

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glad to see they've always had such an inflated view of themselves. honey, just because someone's gay does not mean they will find you attractive. i'll never understand that part about homophobia. a straight female does not think every man she sees is hot, why would a gay male?
they are worried other men will have an inflated view for them


because they have inflated views for most anything female, being the dogs they are


(hubba, hubba your panda avater is hot!
it is female, right?)
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haha, touché!

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they are worried other men will have an inflated view for them


because they have inflated views for most anything female, being the dogs they are


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