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Old 11-28-2009, 07:25 PM   #46
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Well if I was responding to someone nice, such as yourself, I wouldve phrased it this way. I was only keeping the tone of the OP in response to him

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Old 11-28-2009, 07:38 PM   #47
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I've read the New Testament because I was raised a Christian. It's not that I don't know the material (though don't ask me to quote anything), I'm just not buying it.
Exactly this.

And the fact that people feel the need to force their beliefs on me while I'm not doing that to them.
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:11 PM   #48
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wine? or is that the wrong denomination?
I wasn't asking to be snarky, I''m genuinely curious. Many people go to church for reasons other than faith but it's at least a common denominator, or so I would have thought.
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I wasn't asking to be snarky, I''m genuinely curious. Many people go to church for reasons other than faith but it's at least a common denominator, or so I would have thought.
i wasnt being snarky, nor did i think you were,
i was trying to be funny ,

staying out of fym in future.
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:31 PM   #50
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i wasnt being snarky, nor did i think you were,
i was trying to be funny ,

staying out of fym in future.
I thought it was funny
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Old 11-28-2009, 08:32 PM   #51
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You definitely need thick skin (or more like teflon coating) to stick it out around fym for any length of time...
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Old 11-28-2009, 09:17 PM   #52
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What do you get out of going to mass regularly?
The main reason I still attend mass regularly is because my parents are very religious and it would crush them if they knew I hold no religious beliefs. I suck it up and go to church. When I'm away for school, I don't attend.

But I do think when I'm older I might go back for the communal aspect of it. I generally seem to like a lot of the people in my parish and activities like CYO sports. I just don't believe in anything the church stands for.
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Old 11-28-2009, 10:45 PM   #53
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The main reason I still attend mass regularly is because my parents are very religious and it would crush them if they knew I hold no religious beliefs.
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i was baptised, and i studied theology two years ago - and it was very interesting. but i have a hard time believing. i don't go to church, i don't pray.

however it was somewhat comforting for me that when my grandmother passed away last week, she seemed comforted that she was going to be reunited in heaven with the love of her life. i may not really believe, but to see someone faced with death be comforted in any way bought a smile to my face.

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just wondering. i once said in a theology class that science can explain everything from the big bang onwards. but can science explain how that speck or whatever it was that exploded got there? these are the things i think about.


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FWIW I am not the same with regard to the religion and theology I was born into (and schooled under through college).

I like this quote, "Faith is a gift I haven't yet received."

I go to church often enough to reaffirm why it is I don't go.
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But I do think when I'm older I might go back for the communal aspect of it. I generally seem to like a lot of the people in my parish and activities like CYO sports. I just don't believe in anything the church stands for.
If you'd continue to go to church despite not believing in what it teaches, wouldn't you be living a lie?

How about setting a community of non-believers where you could do the same activities and meet people?
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How about setting a community of non-believers where you could do the same activities and meet people?
Too much work, do not want?
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No, seriously, if he's thinking about attending church while not believing, is that not living a lie?
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As long as he's honest with himself about the reasons. Maybe he just likes the group of people that go. I dunno, I should let him speak for himself though
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If you'd continue to go to church despite not believing in what it teaches, wouldn't you be living a lie?
It would depend on the reason, now wouldn't it?

Church is not just for believers...
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