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Old 08-22-2010, 08:43 PM   #16
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I believe this generation has more options. Now if someone chooses a particular option because they are happy with it then that's okay. Unfortunately it's hard with a boom and bust to make some of those typical responsible decisions (marriage, mortgage, children, EDUCATION, taking care of sick relatives). Then you add the enormous choices people have for lifestyles which can be distractions. I think many in reaching the 30s will settle down more in their careers and can finally make longer plans. It's a different world with quickly changing jobs (and job locations) and constant re-education if you're a professional.

There was also a video that anitram posted before that talked about degree inflation which I think forces many people to change careers entirely which will slow things down. Eg. What do all those Psychology graduates do when they can't find a job in Psychology?
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Without touching on the personal stuff, your generalizations are ridiculous.
if this is how he really thinks, the mystery of his loneliness isn't such a mystery.
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Old 08-22-2010, 09:33 PM   #18
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I don't understand why you and everybody else keep attacking me. I am just stating what my situation is, in regards to the topic of this thread.

Did I ask for advice? Am I asking for sympathy?

The answer is no. I am not here looking for sympathy. Okay???!!!! Can I be any more clearer than that????!!! So, with all due respect, please stop attacking me. If you don't like what I have to write, just ignore me. Is that simple enough?
You are looking for sympathy and/or attention, whether you like to admit it or not.

But, whatever, if you cannot see that now, one day you will.

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if this is how he really thinks, the mystery of his loneliness isn't such a mystery.
This.
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Old 08-22-2010, 10:14 PM   #19
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These days many of us are forced to complete graduate or professional degrees which would not have been necessary for comparable jobs 40 years ago. Moreover, the cost of college has sky rocketed while salaries have stagnated and we are graduating with debt levels that my parents simply did not have to deal with in their day. You could work over the summer and perfectly well be able to finance your education.
This pretty much sums up my current situation. Add in the fact that I've been living with my parents thus far because it's been hard for me to get my own place (due to moving so much and other factors) and the job market hasn't been that fantastic and you pretty much have the main explanation for today's 20-somethings, at least the way that article shows them.

(I find it interesting, by the way, how we react to the idea of people in their 20s living at home. In other parts of the world, it's perfectly fine, normal for multiple generations to live in the same house, people think nothing of it. Here, however, it tends to be mocked, even if the reasons as to why are perfectly understandable. Why the difference in attitude?)

I'm smack dab in the middle of my 20s, and I feel like an adult in some ways and yet still don't in other ways (namely the fact that I'm still living at home)-it's a strange back and forth. I've seen many of my friends from school get married or go off and have kids, and my sister, who is 22, is engaged. Many of my friends have finished school or are still going through school, and most of them are living on their own. I'm definitely in the minority in the group of people I know in that regard. But I'm not in any rush to get married or have kids, I'm perfectly happy to wait a few more years on that. Not because I want to "party it up" or whatever during this part of my life ('cause I'm not that big a partier), but because I just do not feel I'm in a stable enough place, partially emotionally but mostly financially to have that stuff happen, a mindset which I actually think shows some maturity and responsiblity regardless of what age you are. I'm not saying I'm necessarily going to wait until my perfect career path drops in my lap and whatnot, but I do want to be in a good place financially. I'm much more concerned about getting that aspect of my life dealt with right now than I am anything else. I want to be out on my own and have my own place and get that settled. I want to go back to school and finish up there first, or at the very least be firmly on my way to getting my degree and such. After all that, then marriage and family will start to enter my mind.

Truth be told, it is a little scary to suddenly realize that you are responsible for yourself now (and possibly other people), it's a little intimidating at first getting out into the "real world". But I don't think that's the main reason why our age group is acting this way, I honestly think most of it is due to issues beyond our control going on right now. And besides, I think this new attitude people in my age group have might actually bode well down the line. Planning ahead a little more, not rushing into anything, waiting until the time is right to move on to the next stage of your life-this may lead to many positive situations personally and for society at large.

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Old 08-22-2010, 10:30 PM   #20
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It's ironic that in your thread in Zoo Confessionals, Pearl called you out for these very comments, and yet here you are spouting off this nonsense in one of her threads!
Exactly. You told me you would stop and you haven't.

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I don't understand why you and everybody else keep attacking me. I am just stating what my situation is, in regards to the topic of this thread.

Did I ask for advice? Am I asking for sympathy?

The answer is no. I am not here looking for sympathy. Okay???!!!! Can I be any more clearer than that????!!! So, with all due respect, please stop attacking me. If you don't like what I have to write, just ignore me. Is that simple enough?

The topic was about 20-somethings afraid to grow up, and I simply used me as an example and to express my thoughts.

For the record, I won't participate in this thread, or any other threads from now on.
Oh grow up! Really, just get a life. Enough of all this whining and woe is me attitude you display in every thread that have nothing to do with your situation. Are you like this in real life, or is this all a joke? Because you've been saying the same thing for years and clearly have never gotten help - despite everyone on this forum telling you to do so - so I'm starting to wonder if you just love playing games with people. Either that or you're quite pathetic.

I'm sorry if that sounded really harsh, but apparently you need brutal honesty in your life.
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Old 08-23-2010, 11:48 AM   #21
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at 23 i got hired a couple days before i even graduated. i graduated in august 2008, and moved from pittsburgh to st thomas virgin islands, having never been there before, in september and started work 2 days after i arrived. i had no problem with it whatsoever, other than finding a place to rent so short notice. this july i bought a condo. is that grown-up enough?

i guess im one of the lucky ones. a lot of people i know are like the article says. times are rough.
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What I do see a lot in my age group is people who think they deserve so much right away and forget how long our parents worked and scrimped and save to "build" their homes, families, and financial security. These days there is an attitude of entitlement. So many people my age have made such huge mistakes for no reason, like this guy I know who didn't have any worries b/c his parents paid for college still ended up with huge CC debt because he wanted a nice house and all new stuff because supposedly that is just what you "get" for graduating from college, getting married, and having a job. Most of us can't live like that, we have to get our hands dirty and work our asses off to afford that sort of lifestyle. My late step-grandpa is sort of an inspiration to me in this regard. He did not come from money at all, was a blue collar worker (plumber) his entire life, was not without his own family drama (kids being unstable and needing his help financially) but he worked really hard and stashed his savings so he was able to enjoy his retirement (even then he did not spend frivolously) and help out his kids/grandkids and others in need.
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Old 08-23-2010, 01:05 PM   #23
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Yes I do think SOME, and I want to emphasize SOME, people that age have been so spoiled by their parents that they do have a sense of entitlement. Especially with the way the economy is now it just doesn't work that way. They want to charge whatever they want on credit and live a kind of lifestyle that's way beyond their means. Of course in many cases that's exactly what their parents do.
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Old 08-23-2010, 01:16 PM   #24
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It's not always people that have been spoiled though, at least not by today's definition, but people who just haven't learned what it means to actually WORK for something, make choices/sacrifices, deal with pressures and roadblocks.

There are plenty of people that have a learned helplessness because they were spoiled and sheltered and thus have very little to no life skills, but I think there's really more people in the middle that were raised decently and are not stupid people but have to make a mistake in order to get it right.
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Old 08-23-2010, 06:06 PM   #25
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It's tough to settle down. I don't know how people do it, let alone 20-somethings.

All, if not most, 20-somethings want to go clubbing every night and hook up with as many people as they can. They don't want to leave the high school/college mentality of partying. They don't want to be tied down in a marriage, having kids, worrying about the bills and having to pay for a mortgage.

I am 37 and single. I have never had a girlfriend. I still live at home with my widowed mom. I am college-educated and employed, but I don't make enough money to live on my own, let alone support a family.
I will never get married because of two things: I am physically ugly and I don't make enough money. I am a total loser, but that is besides the point.
The point is, 20-somethings want to party and have fun as long as they can.
I used to think that women who reach the age of 25 begin to start thinking about marriage and having kids. But now, I think those women want to play the field, have casual sex and live independent lives, not worrying about having to get married and have kids. Just read those Maxim magazines. You will see that most 20-something women are pretty much like that now.
I know a guy of 37 who has always lived at home except for a very brief spell where he shared a house (with two women), has been doing the same, not very well paying job for years with little or no promotional prospects, did not go to college and although nowhere close to being married is quite successful with women. His most recent G.F. was 23 and he ditched her, incidentally, not the other way around. I wouldn't say he is particularly good-looking either. In fact is on the puny side, though it probably helps with younger women that he looks a good bit younger than 37.

Fella, it's time for change. Start with ditching the Maxim magazine collection.
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From the monogamy thread:

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There is always:

Girlfriend experience - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Capitalism is great, there's a supplier for every demand.
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CANOE - Lifewise - Sex & Romance: Dating site launches for ugly people

The Ugly Bug Ball - dating for the aesthetically challenged
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There is already a dating site for unattractive people

eharmony.com
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i think a large number of those in their late 20s/early 30s are seeing these things happen because of the economy, the increased emphasis on more and more higher education and the implications of that (hard to find a job if you don't have them, hard to stay out of debt if you do)...

i also think that those in their early 20s and teens are being more and more coddled and over-protected by parents who refuse to cut the cord... and that's only getting worse each passing year.
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