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Old 06-08-2011, 06:22 PM   #106
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No one wants surprise penis.
Sorry. THIS is the quote of the day.
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Old 06-08-2011, 06:24 PM   #107
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No one wants a surprise penis.
Indeed. Imagine the reaction from those poor people at Google.

Penis prank captured on satellite image - National - NZ Herald News
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Old 06-08-2011, 06:30 PM   #108
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No one wants surprise penis.


my understanding is that none of this was a surprise. he wasn't like, "OMG i'm a Congressman here'smypenis!" at least i think?

it seems like there was mutual flirtation and admiration going on, and many of these women were sexting back just as much. i'm sure his power is part of the aphrodisiac, but so is a big fat ... wallet.



i'll also restate, before i sign off for the day, that the lying/cover up is one thing. what he was actually doing is ... really not all that interesting and i find many of us, as we publish the lurid details and hold cock pics hostage dangling them as blackmail, are doing something that's of no more dubious morality than what Mr. Weiner did.
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Old 06-08-2011, 06:36 PM   #109
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I was just going off the bit I'd heard about the woman saying it had been unsolicited. I know he wasn't just sending random junk shots to women online.

I also really just wanted to use the phrase "surprise penis."

I don't particularly care if he's a cheating jerk, I kind of assume a lot of politicians or people in power are. I assume a lot of them are liars, too, because most people are going to try and cover their asses rather than step up and admit wrongdoing right off the bat. I don't have an opinion one way or the other about whether or not he should resign.

I just think in 2011, with stories of Brett Favre and his unsolicited surprise penis, and stories of teenagers sexting someone and having it being passed around to the entire school ... just the general sense of lack of privacy with social media, that someone in a position of power would be dumb enough to do it.

Go cheat. Go find yourself a nice call girl. Have a good time, use a condom, bon voyage. But to send someone an explicit picture and not stop to consider that someone else might get a hold of it? Or that the recipient might not turn it around and use it against you? What an idiot.

Yeah, caught in the shifting world of social media and privacy expectations. I get that. But in this case, I don't think it excuses it. I don't think that there's a comparison between this and my grandmother not being able to program her VCR. My grandmother isn't running for public office in the very media-savvy world of 2011. And hey, I say all sorts of bonehead stuff on the internet as well. But I'm sure not running for public office, either.

It was just a plain old bonehead move.
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Old 06-08-2011, 06:47 PM   #110
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sheer stupidity aside -- and we all agree on this -- i guess i find this online flirtation/sextation/whatever "better" than Clinton getting a blow job or Spitzer getting a call girl. and if i were one of these guy's wives, i'd much rather he be living out a wild sex life in his head and hand than with random, live people who could be crawling with disease.

when looking at this from a wider lens, i almost think there's a reverse sexism at play here. at least Clinton and Spitzer (and i've lost track of the Republicans there's been so many) went out and laid their ladies! Weiner was just wanking! how pathetic! he didn't even have the decency to actually cheat like a real man! hahahah! his last name is Weiner!

but is being dumb about this reason enough to resign? and does this excuse our behavior? at least you're focusing on the stupidity of putting your junk out there in cyberspace rather than calling him a "scumbag" for flirting with people who were doing exactly the same thing.

i don't know. i'm making a finer point here, i think, and i find this whole thing interesting above and beyond the political aspect of it, the whole "shifting world of social media and privacy expectations." that's what's interesting to me. i can't see him being as effective a leader and it probably would be better if he resigned.

but i think we're all worse off because this happened. and Breitbart is a vengeful dickwad who edited a video to make Shirley Sherrod look like a racist in order to score points. so fuck him, while we're at it.
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We're all making assumptions that his wife didn't know of what was going on in the first place, and that she didn't approve, or even join in.

Stranger things have happened.

I think it's unlikely, but nothing shocks me anymore. Much like I'm not shocked by people claiming moral outrage... and then posting his cock 12 times.

The lying and stupidity of this is enough for me to have serious doubts over ever voting for him if he were to run for mayor, which was assumed. That he plays naughty games online is his own business, and I could honestly care less that he was doing just that.
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I Don’t Care What Photos Anthony Weiner Sends - By David Gelernter - The Corner - National Review Online

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Which brings me back to Weiner. Weiner didn’t commit adultery or anything near adultery. He committed tasteless stupidity, and there’s no law against that. When reporters first asked him about the expose reports, he should have said “Butt out.”

The biggest offense in this case is the dirtying of the public airwaves and news-waves with ugly, trivial junk; it’s an offense like the one that used to be popular a generation ago with “urban youths,” who would carry around giant boom boxes and play music (or whatever it was) at deafening volumes.

For my part I couldn’t care less what sort of pictures or messages Weiner has been sending around the Net, and it’s an imposition to be required to care; to be unable to avoid the topic. I find that I have no interest in Congressman Anthony Weiner’s sex life or virtual sex life whatsoever. And I’ve heard enough tearful on-camera contrition to last me the rest of my life. I don’t want to hear Weiner’s apology. It’s got nothing to do with me, tells me nothing I want to know; the cable news media, conservative and liberal, would do the public a favor if they would agreed to a blanket tearful-apologies ban effective this instant. And in the future, let Weiner and everyone else who has done some trivial stupid thing that no one actually gives a damn about keep his apologies to himself.
From the National Review, no less.
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you can't just whip it out, in person or online.

That's not cool.

At least give a heads up.

"Hey, I have something for you. Want to see it? <winky winky>"
Sooner or later you have to whip it out. And if you whip it out that is the heads up.
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Old 06-08-2011, 09:53 PM   #114
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There are many nuances in a seduction that generally favor the woman.
At the whip it out stage the man is faced with two options. Whip it out an reap the benefits or put it back in his pants. If he puts in back in his pants he will be called sissy by the woman but he will hold on to his political career.

If he goes for the gold there is chance he will set up by either text message, photograph, rape allegation whatever. The safe ting for rich and powerful men to do is get a call girl and get a receipt that will hold up in court.

Sad but true.
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If he puts in back in his pants he will be called sissy by the woman

.... what?
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Old 06-08-2011, 10:21 PM   #116
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What I am trying to say that women can turn the tables at any moment in a courtship or online or whatever.

But yet it is up to the man to be the aggressive one. If they cower away the woman will surely gossip to their friends at what a wimp he is.

Generally for men, politics is not personal, for women politics is personal. Thats how they judge a man, whether he has a family, whether he is faithful or not.

Sexual politics is a minefield. I am not going there.
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Old 06-08-2011, 10:28 PM   #118
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when looking at this from a wider lens, i almost think there's a reverse sexism at play here.
Nothing would make me happier than to see a successful female politician in Washington be taken down by sex scandal and for them to lose so much that they have worked for like so many men before them.
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corianderstem, Is that all you have, no worded rebuttal?
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