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Old 06-08-2011, 04:20 PM   #91
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that this scumbag should use his elected office to trade for sexual gratification is not one. lying about it should have no consequences ??


was he promising political favors to these women? what are the charges?

we're spending good money on an ethics investigation, so i assume these pressing questions will soon be answered.
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Old 06-08-2011, 04:30 PM   #92
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i didn't say that

I said he traded on his office for gratification.

he created his accounts with his name and title, the one woman said she could not believe it was really him, she asked him to hold up a sign that said me.


this is the woman that he jerked off to
the one that wrote she wanted to sit on his cock

so yes he did use his office for sexual gratification.

if he had logged on as

TonyFromQueens, that might be different.

That nut-job Chris Lee



did not use his office, he did not use his real name or age when he went trolling.

Still, it is good he resigned.
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Old 06-08-2011, 04:35 PM   #93
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there are people that deserve sympathy, defending, this guy is not a victim in anyway

most of the people in here would rather see Obama reelcted over Romney.

This is the kind of thing that sways voters,. The Dems made alot of headway with the scandals the GOP had, Mark Foley, Abranoff, etc scandals in 2006.

You may recall the Dems made good pick ups in the 2006 and 2008 elections.

A lot is at stake in next years elections. Just send a few women and independent voters to the GOP and it is all over.

How can anyone say this guy has not shown extremely poor judgement, repeatedly? Swap him out, he is in a safe district, put in a Dem that is not tainted.
Sure, just wondered why every post had to contain the word "scumbag".
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I remember watching the first week, when he said he got hacked,

I thought it was pretty lousy that someone could get into one's accont and send out anything they wanted.

I don't use a lot of social media, but I know everything is going that way.

well, he tried to lay it off on right wing enemies, and to be honest, I was kind of buying his story. I thought this guy is a victim, this could happen to anyone.

If we can't believe a U S Congressman that has the right to hold hearings, subpena people and compel them to testify under oath, then the whole system is worthless. It's all a sham.
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somebody else does not like being lied to


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Anthony Weiner’s former girlfriend, Kirsten Powers, defended him on TV to millions of people after he insisted to her that he didn’t send lewd photos on Twitter. Now she takes him to task for his rampant misogyny—and says he must resign immediately.

Anthony Weiner lied to the country about his sexual misconduct online. He also lied to me.

I had been defending him, based on what he told me, but no more. Weiner must resign from Congress immediately.

Kirsten Powers was lied to by her ex-boyfriend, Anthony Weiner, about being hacked. This has not been my position previously during the scandal, but as I have recovered from the shock of seeing an old friend’s life unravel and have had time to get my mind around the extensive and sociopathic lying in which he engaged, there seems to be no other choice than for him to step aside and stop hurting his family, friends, and the Democratic Party. As more information trickles out about his online behavior with women, it has also become clear that he does not have the character to be in a position of leadership because of his misogynist view of women and predatory behavior.
Full disclosure: I briefly dated Anthony almost a decade ago after meeting him at a post-campaign party for the 2002 New York gubernatorial race, during which I had worked as Andrew Cuomo’s press secretary. The relationship didn’t last, but we stayed friends. While we were dating, he traveled with my family to Costa Rica for Christmas, and years later I spent Thanksgiving with his when I was stranded in New York City because of work. He was a strong support when my father died suddenly from a heart attack seven years ago. When a relationship I had been hopeful for ended in 2006, he cleared his calendar to spend a Saturday with me and reassure me about my decision. In the last few years, we didn’t see each other or communicate much, though when my husband’s parents were recently trapped in Egypt during the revolution, he helped to connect me to his wife, Huma, an aide to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, to facilitate getting them out.
this from someone that knows him well. and still seems to have regard for all the decent things he has done in the past.
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he "used his office?" if you are talking about funds you'd have a point. but saying that mentioning he was a Congressman is akin to luring unsuspecting, innocent, naive women into his gingerbread house is really pushing it, and it's really patronizing to these women.

from a political perspective, he's toast, for now. and a liability. the cover up is worse than the "crime," etc.

but as this has all gone on, i've felt worse and worse for Wiener. i really have. i wish he had just said, "i mistakenly posted that photo to a public account and it was meant to be private. who or what i send private photos of is none of your fucking business."

i also feel the same way about Lee, honestly. the difference, however, is that anyone can view Craigslist postings, whereas Weiner kept his dealings protected by passwords and private accounts, and he fucked up. that, and Lee belongs to a party that thinks that there's only one correct way to have sex and tries to pass legislation on the basis of that.

and from the bigger perspective, i don't see how this helps anyone, anywhere, or makes any of us better. people should resign when their hypocrisy or corruption or criminal behavior is exposed. not when their (solicited, private, consensual) photos of their cocks are exposed.

i think we deprive ourselves of potentially good leaders by not allowing them to be fallible human beings. and then we revel in the sticky details.
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Wont anyone think of the children? How are we supposed to raise the children if congressmen are doing this? Please, think of the children!!!

Oh, and btw here are private explicit conversations and 20 pictures of his cock.

But yea... children. Think of them.
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he "used his office?" if you are talking about funds you'd have a point. but saying that mentioning he was a Congressman is akin to luring unsuspecting, innocent, naive women into his gingerbread house is really pushing it, and it's really patronizing to these women.

from a political perspective, he's toast, for now. and a liability. the cover up is worse than the "crime," etc.

but as this has all gone on, i've felt worse and worse for Wiener. i really have. i wish he had just said, "i mistakenly posted that photo to a public account and it was meant to be private. who or what i send private photos of is none of your fucking business."

i also feel the same way about Lee, honestly. the difference, however, is that anyone can view Craigslist postings, whereas Weiner kept his dealings protected by passwords and private accounts, and he fucked up. that, and Lee belongs to a party that thinks that there's only one correct way to have sex and tries to pass legislation on the basis of that.

and from the bigger perspective, i don't see how this helps anyone, anywhere, or makes any of us better. people should resign when their hypocrisy or corruption or criminal behavior is exposed. not when their (solicited, private, consensual) photos of their cocks are exposed.

i think we deprive ourselves of potentially good leaders by not allowing them to be fallible human beings. and then we revel in the sticky details.
I am sensing you have some empathy for him

for me, the guy had the world at his feet, most likely NY Mayor and then what??

he has a lovely wife, he is supposed to be intelligent, and we all know that twitter and FB are not really anonymous, anything online, even texts can and will live forever. If anyone is sensing some anger or resentment toward him from me, I admit to it.

I see him as being very selfish, exploiting women and as his ex girlfriend says, misogynistic. These are all voluntary choices he made all by himself.

He opened the doors and repeatedly walked through them. No one made him.

it would be nice if we could go back and have the old Anthony back, but to be honest he is not the person we all believed him to be, perhaps we should be mourning the loss of the idealistic young leader. Now we are left with someone that has no credibilty and who'e integity is questionable. And these were all self inflicted wounds.
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He should definitely resign.

Especially now that it seems like he'll need the extra time to be a father.
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Anthony Weiner's Wife, Huma Abedin, Is Pregnant - NYTimes.com

I think this news makes him look even worse.
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he has a lovely wife, he is supposed to be intelligent, and we all know that twitter and FB are not really anonymous, anything online, even texts can and will live forever. If anyone is sensing some anger or resentment toward him from me, I admit to it.

I see him as being very selfish, exploiting women and as his ex girlfriend says, misogynistic. These are all voluntary choices he made all by himself.



i'd write something, but i'll just repost something because it says it better than i ever could:



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Living And Living Online

Some have argued that Anthony Weiner's mistake was not to realize that what you say or write or send online is not in some super-secret, personal dimension where the rest of the world cannot tread - but totally, irrevocably public. His delusionary sense of security and privacy came, in part, I think from the context - you're often online in a private space and tend to regard emails or tweets like a phone call. But, of course, emails are not phone-calls or even letters. Everything has a record, especially digital photographs, and can be dispersed immediately to all four corners of the earth. (Ask yourself: would this mean anything if Weiner had merely had unrecorded sex talks with consenting adults over the phone? No: this was all about the power of a dick pic.) And the older you are, the likelier it is you may get tripped up by this, because the less likely you will be to have learned these disasters in adolescence.

We have discovered a new way of living socially, and we haven't quite figured out how to square it with our other lives. Jonathan Franzen wrote an exquisite piece about this a week or so ago. Money quote:

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A related phenomenon is the transformation, courtesy of Facebook, of the verb “to like” from a state of mind to an action that you perform with your computer mouse, from a feeling to an assertion of consumer choice. And liking, in general, is commercial culture’s substitute for loving. The striking thing about all consumer products — and none more so than electronic devices and applications — is that they’re designed to be immensely likable. This is, in fact, the definition of a consumer product, in contrast to the product that is simply itself and whose makers aren’t fixated on your liking it. (I’m thinking here of jet engines, laboratory equipment, serious art and literature.)
But if you consider this in human terms, and you imagine a person defined by a desperation to be liked, what do you see? You see a person without integrity, without a center. In more pathological cases, you see a narcissist — a person who can’t tolerate the tarnishing of his or her self-image that not being liked represents, and who therefore either withdraws from human contact or goes to extreme, integrity-sacrificing lengths to be likable.

Hence Palin's obsessive corralling of fans to pad her Facebook stats or swarm Wikipedia to conform reality to her insanity. And I don't honestly believe that if Weiner were chatting up an admirer in a bar, he would have whipped out his impressive, briefed bulge or exposed his ripped, manly pecs (are you not, by the way, impressed by how in shape these congressmen are?).

In online sex chat, you can disaggregate yourself, figuratively dismember yourself, become a body without a head (or a mind), be a pair of strained underpants, or actually send a picture of your own Favre in seconds. You can become porn. You can enjoy many of the best parts of sex without any complicating emotion or relationship or accountability. And you will not get an STD.

This is not real life. And you are not, in this interaction, a real or rounded person. You are a sexual avatar of sorts. You are your pecs; or your dick. Love is not the object here; "like" is.

The online world creates an outlet for the feelings that sexual adultery or sexual adventure create - but without actual sex, without actual intimacy, without our actual full selves. For gay men, it's win-win - a harmless online playground where you flirt the hours away and never really get your feelings hurt and remain, as they say in the brutal jungle of online sex, "disease-free". For straight men, it's tougher to find willing partners who don't think you're creepy (most men and women are just wired differently in sexual matters), but still win-win until wives or girlfriends find out, and they do not see the virtual/real distinction. But, to my mind, the appeal of anonymity and of losing oneself in a virtual sexual encounter is so powerful and easily available it will never cease being popular. It's as irresistible a mindless outlet as bad television or Angry Birds - and much more interactive and addictive. You can even send pictures of people other than yourself and pretend to be utterly other. Does that make it better or worse? Discuss ...

All I can say is that we're adjustng, slowly, and Weiner was a victim of this shift. Maybe more married or committed couples would do well to talk about it, set some rules, and make some preparation. Judging by the "shocked! shocked!" responses of some writers like Megan McArdle, there are a lot of conversations still to be had.

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as you have previously posted

he is toast because he went on national TV and bald face lied for a week.

made up stories, pointed the fingers at other people and said he hired an investigator. he got indignant with reporters when they wanted some clarifications at a press conference he called. no integrity, no credibility.


as for Andrews fluff piece, he misses the point. we should all learn what Farve learned. you really should not be posting or texting your junk;.
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Especially if the woman on the receiving end did not request it (isn't that what the woman said? that's the last I heard, that it was 'unsolicited').

I don't care how hot you think you are, women should not have to be faced with genital surprises when they log into whatever accounts or check their phones.
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I don't care how hot you think you are, women should not have to be faced with genital surprises when they log into whatever accounts or check their phones.
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I mean, I guess people interpret "online flirtation" differently, but if I'm flirting with you, in person or online, you can't just whip it out, in person or online.

That's not cool.

At least give a heads up.

"Hey, I have something for you. Want to see it? <winky winky>"

and the woman could be into it "Totally, text me your junk, yo." and follow up with "MY BOOBZ, LET ME SHOW U THEMS."

or she has the chance to say "You know, I really don't want your penis on my phone, so let's just call it a day."

No one wants surprise penis.
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