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Old 07-28-2011, 06:03 PM   #196
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here's the thing, he didn't know anyone's true age
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See, this is what I was wondering. Gross (and potentially criminal).
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Yes for me that's the most reckless aspect of it. You just take that at face value and don't even think about the possibilities? How can you really reconcile that, that a 'lawmaker" could be so reckless to take such a risk?
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Old 09-14-2011, 03:09 AM   #198
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Republicans clinch Weiner's seat


weiner,
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Old 09-14-2011, 08:40 AM   #199
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To use Washington speak; this is a big f---ing deal.
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It's a deal. About as much a deal as the R seats the D's won in NY and PA.

Not good news for the D's and for O, but special elections aren't all that predictive.

But, yes, this is bad news, though this is a part of Brooklyn that is heavily Orthodox and heavily Catholic, and the D was a piss-poor candidate.
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I assume the seat is up again in 2012 anyway. Maybe the local Dems can find a decent candidate to retake it.
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So Mayor Koch endorsed the Republican. Israel was a big reason-he says Obama is willing to throw Israel under the bus in order to please Muslim nations.
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I assume the seat is up again in 2012 anyway. Maybe the local Dems can find a decent candidate to retake it.
I think N Y lost two seats to reapportionment.

This district will probably go away.
So no real gain or loss for 2012.
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So Mayor Koch endorsed the Republican. Israel was a big reason-he says Obama is willing to throw Israel under the bus in order to please Muslim nations.
Yeah, Drudge had some big headline in red,
REVENGE OF THE JEWS!!
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It's not primarily about Israel, it's about the chillul Hashem (profaning God's name) charge a group of haredi rabbis leveled at Weprin over his vote in favor of same-sex marriage last June. The Orthodox in this district are predominantly Russian haredim and they tend to be strongly socially conservative. Had Weprin not been a (Modern) Orthodox Jew himself, it wouldn't have been nearly as much of an issue. Even given that, polling last week showed Weprin leading with Jewish voters by a small margin (there were no exit polls), so I assume the presence of large numbers of moderate-to-conservative Catholics (Turner is Catholic) in the district probably played some role too.
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The article I read said it was about Israel and Social Security and something else I can't remember, for Mayor Koch. He seems to have a definite grudge against Obama regarding Israel.

I didn't even know he was still alive
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More and more I'm thinking that we may see a reverse HW Bush situation next year.

Good man, decent president... done in by a shitty economy.
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and the D was a piss-poor candidate.
the R was a lifelong business man... a political novice.
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the R was a lifelong business man... a political novice.


well, if you read a little about the race, rather than scoop the headlines from the right wing blogs, you'd know why he was a piss poor candidate.

there was a huge attempt to nationalize this race, because it seemed like a possible pick-up, and certainly discontent with national politics and the president was a factor.

but this is hardly the Upper West Side, and there are a lot of local issues at play that make it much more complicated than the "big fucking deal" links on redstate.org.
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I think N Y lost two seats to reapportionment.

This district will probably go away.
So no real gain or loss for 2012.
That's right. I read that.
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