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Old 08-27-2010, 09:59 PM   #16
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Slippery slope indeed, but it's not like that Law & Order episode where they tried to hold a a pregnant woman in custody because she was drinking. The bar can refuse to serve alcohol if they want to, that's already established. The article is whining about it being a "crime" and limiting peoples' rights, that's a bit sensational.
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:00 PM   #17
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We were born to mothers who smoked and drank
Our cribs were covered in lead based paint
No child proof lids no seat belts in cars
Rode bikes with no helmets and still here we are, still here we are
We got daddy’s belt when we misbehaved
Had three TV channels you got up to change
No video games and no satellite
All we had were friends and they were outside, playin’ outside


It was a different life
When we were boys and girls
Not just a different time
It was a different world

School always started the same every day
The pledge of allegiance then someone would pray
Not every kid made the team when they tried
We got disappointed and that was all right, we turned out all right

No bottled water, we drank from a garden hose
And every Sunday, all the stores were closed


~Bucky Covington
Woohoo, the GOOD OLD DAYS!!

When women were freely beaten by their husbands and couldn't go to Ivy League schools, when blacks drank from separate water fountains and were called "coloured", when we electroshocked the mentally challenged and locked them away, when gays and lesbians had no civil rights to speak of...

We really do glorify the past when the future dries up.
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I can't believe he quoted a song from a staggeringly mediocre American Idol contestant than anything else.

I never thought I'd ever see Bucky Covington referenced on this site.
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Old 08-27-2010, 11:23 PM   #19
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I wondered who Bucky Covington was, but couldn't be bothered to Google the name.
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Old 08-28-2010, 12:12 AM   #20
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Given the risks of alcohol on unborn babies, if something bad were to happen, the bar could conceivably (pun!) be considered liable for serving her.

Doesn't a bar reserve the right to refuse service to anyone?
This is the litigious? society we live in. People are terrified to do anything for fear of being sued! My previous employer has been fighting with a woman for twelve years because she walked into a glass window....a glass window that had all sorts of crap on it to stop people from walking into it. She's claimed all sorts of things including loss of sexual appetite


People need to take responsibility for themselves, we expect society to take care of us when we're too stupid to do it ourselves. Take for example the woman that fell over an unruly child in a store, sued the company and got a bundle......the child was hers Sueing a pub because you slipped on the greasy floor? Greasy from the bacon shoes you were wearing.

It's no wonder companies have these hard core rules.
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Well put.

That being said, this bit from that Telegraph article makes a good point, too:



I guess I figure if a woman willingly goes into a bar, she knows full well the risks she may be exposing herself and her unborn to, so once she's there it seems pointless to start lecturing her on the dangers of alcohol. I certainly wouldn't condone drinking to excess (which can vary from person to person, too, that's another thing to keep in mind), but I don't condone that whether you're pregnant or not. But if a woman went in and had a light glass on rare occasion, I don't see the harm. It certainly would help if the experts could get their story straight on what is and isn't harmful during pregnancies, too.

Angela


how often do our mothers tell us that pregnant women freely drank and smoked a bit in the old days. I know it's not right or good for you but some things are going too far. You're told to eat lots this, none of that, plenty of vitamins, but they have to be the right ones, no soft serve or sushi or soft cheese or deli food.. Well what if you're hellishly ill and can only stomach crackers and weak drinks? Look out lady, you're baby will be deficient in all sorts of ways, if that baby isn't perfect it will be your fault!!!!!
I'd be too frightened to go out, the experts might have told the world that wearing loose clothes makes baby insecure as an adult, next day tight clothes smother it. just can't win





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how often do our mothers tell us that pregnant women freely drank and smoked a bit in the old days. I know it's not right or good for you but some things are going too far. You're told to eat lots this, none of that, plenty of vitamins, but they have to be the right ones, no soft serve or sushi or soft cheese or deli food.. Well what if you're hellishly ill and can only stomach crackers and weak drinks? Look out lady, you're baby will be deficient in all sorts of ways, if that baby isn't perfect it will be your fault!!!!!
I'd be too frightened to go out, the experts might have told the world that wearing loose clothes makes baby insecure as an adult, next day tight clothes smother it. just can't win





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LOL. Feel good to get that all out now ?

Seriously, I do agree with you, it does seem we like to panic over the slightest things and overreact sometimes. That story about that woman with the glass window is insane. It's amazing how stupid some people can be.

I too was wondering why Bucky was being quoted. Of all people...

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Woohoo, the GOOD OLD DAYS!!

When women were freely beaten by their husbands and couldn't go to Ivy League schools, when blacks drank from separate water fountains and were called "coloured", when we electroshocked the mentally challenged and locked them away, when gays and lesbians had no civil rights to speak of...

We really do glorify the past when the future dries up.

I don't remember the 1970's being like this.
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Old 08-28-2010, 11:18 AM   #24
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We were born to mothers who smoked and drank
Our cribs were covered in lead based paint
No child proof lids no seat belts in cars
Rode bikes with no helmets and still here we are, still here we are
We got daddy’s belt when we misbehaved
Had three TV channels you got up to change
No video games and no satellite
All we had were friends and they were outside, playin’ outside


It was a different life
When we were boys and girls
Not just a different time
It was a different world

School always started the same every day
The pledge of allegiance then someone would pray
Not every kid made the team when they tried
We got disappointed and that was all right, we turned out all right

No bottled water, we drank from a garden hose
And every Sunday, all the stores were closed


~Bucky Covington
Oh yes, the good old days when mothers would cradle their precious babies on their laps in the front seat of car full of cigarette smoke while the other kids slept on the backseat or the floor. It was pure bliss wasn't it? Even car accidents were better back then, weren't they? No seatbelts or carseats for us in those days, no sir. Instead of getting a wimpy airbag burn and measly case of whiplash, you could actually watch your baby fly through the front window like a projectile, while mom followed behind and was probably decapitated!
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Well if they don't serve pregnant women, where am I supposed to get my pregnant woman sandwiches?
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Even car accidents were better back then, weren't they? No seatbelts or carseats for us in those days, no sir. Instead of getting a wimpy airbag burn and measly case of whiplash, you could actually watch your baby fly through the front window like a projectile, while mom followed behind and was probably decapitated!
A friend of my parents' was killed this way (no baby on her lap, though -- the kids were in the back seat). It was a fairly minor accident, but she had nothing holding her back, and went part way through the windshield. When she slammed back into the car, she was decapitated by what was left of the windshield.

Lovely, indeed.
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One of the saddest sights I have ever witnessed was during the brief (3 weeks) period that I sold cars at a dealership. As new salespeople, you envied the repeat customers that would show up and ask for their regular salesperson by name.

Anyway, this older couple (early 60s?) came in to trade-in their old minivan for another new one. Old can be in quotes here, it was maybe 2-3 years old. They seemed fairly wealthy and were looking for a new, loaded Chrysler Town & Country. With them was what seemed to be a 30-40ish man. He was quiet and walked a number of steps behind what I assumed was his parents. When they had left, I asked their salesman who was with them. It was indeed their son. He explained that he was mentally disabled and had learned to be quiet and follow his parents like a dog. He was a Fetal Alcohol Syndrome victim.

The salesman had known these customers for several years. This would be the 3rd or 4th car they bought from him. Every time they had come in, their son was with them. He said he never had heard the guy speak, never had seen much of any expression on him. He just dutifully followed his parents around and seemed to do as told.

They came back a few more times over the next week to finish paperwork and then to pick up the minivan. Each time their son was with them, and I couldn't help but stare. He had the telltale facial signs of FAS, and he just continued his routine of saying nothing and following a few feet behind his parents.

I can't imagine what his life was like. They may have had all of the money in the world to dress him well, and to make certain that he didn't cause a seen or embarrass them. But, you just got the feeling that due to their socialite lifestyle, the mother drank while she was pregnant, either knowingly or unknowingly, and now felt burdened with this anchor of a son that would follow them around until they couldn't care for him anymore.

Very sad.
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that is so crappy. one of my aunts smoked while she was pregnant with both kids and they both exhibited a lot of classic signs of being exposed to cigarettes. they had low birth weights and are both on the shorter side, and also had very chronic ear infections.

it's not the same as alcohol or fas, but still. i can completely sympathise with a person who refuses to serve a pregnant woman alcohol or even cigarettes.
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My neighbors smoke a lot and I noticed smoked through their pregnancy. Their baby is almost a year old and is still very tiny. I've always wondered if she had health problems. Phil was talking to the guy last week and he did mention she has some serious problems (did not say what) but I wonder what effect the smoking had.... Maybe she was so addicted it would have been worse on her body and stress level to quit?
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