bono_man2002
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Its just going to keep climbing isn't it
That image keeps giving me nightmares too...it was the main reason why my first reaction was 'I can't believe how fast these moved.' I've watched enough news stories about devastating wildfires out West to know how dangerous the combination of wind, dry scrub and sparks can be, but I can't remember hearing of anything quite like this.
i have never, ever heard of anything like what i'm reading about and watching on Yahoo news. it's the speed that floors me. the fact that it's not like people are being a bunch of idiots and trying to ride it out. it's that within a matter of seconds they are consumed by flames.
The Age said:In the past two days, the CFA lieutenant has seen a body tumble from a smashed car and charred remains in the blackened shells of other vehicles.
He tried to help a woman find her sister's children only to discover they had burned in a house in the Kinglake fires.
Its just going to keep climbing isn't it
A University of Melbourne senior lecturer in fire ecology and management, Kevin Tolhurst, said the radiant heat - the heat given off by the fires - would itself have been enough to kill. "When it gets close, you have enormous radiation loads."
The "survivability" distance of Saturday's heat was about four times their height - a 35-metre high fire would directly imperil those within 140 metres.
The body would get over-stressed, the core temperature would get too high and the metabolism would break down in those conditions. He said bushfires produce their own volatile gases which in turn burn - and on a day as hot as Saturday, it does not take much for them to ignite.
Dr Tolhurst said people could be surrounded by a series of spot fires. Breathing would become difficult due to burning gases and the body would dehydrate quickly. Death from a form of asphyxiation was also possible.
On Saturday afternoon, there were 200 people living in the rural town, which is north of Melbourne.
By the end of that night, it is believed about 15 per cent of the population - or about 30 people - perished.
Many houses in Strathewen and Arthurs Creek have police tape across their front gates, an ominous sign of what lies inside.
The town has lost its old fire station, its school and its community hall. A man died while running for his life across the town's sports ground. The reserve has only one strip of green remaining, its cricket pitch.
Whole sections of the town have been flattened, obliterated.
He had spoken to one couple from Kinglake who were ready to defend their home but had to flee at the last moment, saving their family but losing their house.
"They put their fire plan in place, they did everything right, 30 metres of grass, water in spouts, everything, and they were going to save their house and they said it just came over, like a sun almost, a fireball just came over.
"Their kitchen just exploded and they left in the car and miraculously they survived.
"But how else do you describe that, it is, it's like hell on earth."
Have not experienced it, no. When I visited Melbourne a few years ago, it was actually quite cold, so it's hard for me to understand the whole thing. But I've been reading articles for the last week or so that there was a big likelihood of a major fire in the region, so I stand by my point, to be honest - and Germaine Greer made the point better than I did, and she'd be more familiar with the region than I would.
Perhaps, in a few weeks or months, some examination can be conducted of what caused this and why the death toll was so high.
I was in Wedderburn all weekend for a cricket tournament, which I think is about half an hour north of Bendigo. We played Strathewen in the competition. They probably all lost friends and family.
On a news report tonight, one of the CFA people (I think) talked of how 2 fire fronts joined up on Saturday to become one front to hit Kinglake and Marysville. I checked it on the Melways and it's about 20 km as the crow flies. 20 KM FOR ONE FRONT!!!!
It hits hard when you start reading these messages looking for loved ones...
According to the Herald Sun, bushfire heat is measured in energy - the number of kilowatts per metre of the firefront. CFA crews won't send anyone to fight a fire of 4000kW/m. The Kinglake fire was 20,000 kW/m.