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Old 02-09-2009, 05:43 AM   #76
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On a news report tonight, one of the CFA people (I think) talked of how 2 fire fronts joined up on Saturday to become one front to hit Kinglake and Marysville. I checked it on the Melways and it's about 20 km as the crow flies. 20 KM FOR ONE FRONT!!!!
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That these get caused primarily by fucking dickheads who purposely light them is insanity. I thought 'terrorist' was too strong a word, now, not so much.
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I've seen the fire warnings on Friday but I had absolutely no idea just how fucking awful the situation would become I shudder to think of all the people who died in their cars while trying to escape - what a horrible way to go.
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On a news report tonight, one of the CFA people (I think) talked of how 2 fire fronts joined up on Saturday to become one front to hit Kinglake and Marysville. I checked it on the Melways and it's about 20 km as the crow flies. 20 KM FOR ONE FRONT!!!!
Somebody posted this map on Wikipedia:



LOOK AT HOW FUCKING BIG THAT FIRE IS! Kilmore, Kinglake, Marysville, Murrindindi, almost down to Sugarloaf Reservoir.

Then of course there are the two shown down in the Gippsland region, and there were and are plenty of other fires in the area depicted by that map and more widely throughout the state.
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It hits hard when you start reading these messages looking for loved ones...

Bushfire missing search on our message board. Can you help? | Herald Sun

Even if you're not personally hit by this tragedy it still just seems too depressing to bear
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Old 02-09-2009, 07:11 AM   #81
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Nice use of a major diasaster to flaunt your tired anti-global warming argument mate. Classy.

How come it doesn't rain in Victoria anymore? Explain that.

Anyway this whole bushfire thing is immense. So glad I live by the seaside, if there was fire near me (which is possible) I'd just run to the water.

The arsonists are terrorists, and they probably are mentally disturbed or insane, yet all these calls for them to "burn" or be killed or whatever is pretty poor. They need rehabilitation, on top of a prison sentence.
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It hits hard when you start reading these messages looking for loved ones...
Heartbreaking...

Fire moving though the air at 100km/hr.

Fire moving though the air at 100km/hr.


Completely surreal and heartbreaking.
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Old 02-09-2009, 09:04 AM   #83
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It's horrible, so tragic for all of the loss of life and for your country
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holy fucking shit.
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The death toll is now 171.

Some towns are still under threat with fires remaining out of control. Healesville and Yarra Glen are under ember attack as I type.

On a personal note, it hurts a bit to know that the Yarra Valley Railway's lost a fair bit of infrastructure. One of the grand old trestle bridges near Yarra Glen burnt to nothing. Luckily the heritage trains and currently operable track have not been damaged, but restoring the line back to Yarra Glen and Lilydale just became a fair bit harder. I think I'll start pitching in there on a regular basis. Glad I got my photos of the line between Tarrawarra and Yering back in December ...
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According to the Herald Sun, bushfire heat is measured in energy - the number of kilowatts per metre of the firefront. CFA crews won't send anyone to fight a fire of 4000kW/m. The Kinglake fire was 20,000 kW/m.



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I just don't know how some of these people are going to get through the next few days / weeks / months . . . the grief and sense of loss just must be overwhelming . . . I'm overwhelmed just reading / watching the news and my heart just wants to break with every story I hear . . . the thing that I keep coming back to is the fear those poor bastards would have felt in their last moments . . .

I'm sure the Australian community will rally to give the survivors as much support as possible - I just hope that bureacracy and red tape will stand aside in this instance and that opportunists will stay the hell away and give these people a break
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I have been away for a week, and I watched not one minute of TV nor did I have internet access. Actually, I chose not to have it. So this is completely shocking to see, and just unimaginable. Having never lived in such an extremely dry climate (the Mediterranean isn't that bad), I really can't even fathom how these fires spread with such speed.
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This is just awful. I send my prayers and thoughts to everyone out there that is affected by this.
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They have some pretty heartbreaking pictures on Boston.com.

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