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Old 06-18-2010, 12:19 PM   #1
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Utah executes death row inmate by firing squad

Video: Death row inmate executed by Utah firing squad | World news | guardian.co.uk


And the Utah Attorney Gen. tweeted about the execution:

Mark Shurtleff (MarkShurtleff) on Twitter
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:18 PM   #2
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Old 06-18-2010, 01:23 PM   #3
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Life in Utah
or a firing squad.
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:11 PM   #5
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So, what direction does the OP want this thread to go?
A discussion about the death penalty? A discussion about Twitter? A discussion about Twitter in combination with the death penalty?
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:16 PM   #6
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So, what direction does the OP want this thread to go?
A discussion about the death penalty? A discussion about Twitter? A discussion about Twitter in combination with the death penalty?

I'd suggest a direction, but threads on topics like this rarely stay on course in FYM. In fact, I can almost predict what certain posters will say. I posted it mainly because I had no idea this particular method was still being used.

Anyway, say what you will on this topic or the death penalty in general. Personally, I am opposed to the death penalty, and this story only reinforces my belief. It's simply barbaric, but that's just my opinion.
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Old 06-18-2010, 02:30 PM   #7
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I'd suggest a direction, but threads on topics like this rarely stay on course in FYM. In fact, I can almost predict what certain posters will say. I posted it mainly because I had no idea this particular method was still being used.
I don't think the firing squad is allowed anymore in Utah (at least, that's what I heard on the news here). Only, the convicted had specifically requested for it before it was banned.
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Yeah, the guy did request it, so I guess if they themselves choose it, can it really be considered "barbaric" in that particular instance? I completely agree, on the whole it's a barbaric practice, but in this case, it's what the guy wanted, so...*Shrugs*. I'm torn, 'cause on the one hand if someone willingly asks for the death penalty for themselves, then I won't really complain (what exactly did this guy do, anyway, does anyone know for sure?); at the same time, though, do we really want to give a criminal exactly what they wished for? Clearly he wanted death, wouldn't it have been a worse punishment for him to let him rot in jail for life instead?

As for the Twitter thing, I can fully understand the complaints people have about the guy posting that and don't disagree, but hey, with this technology this is what you sometimes get. People post stupid stuff. Had this technology been around in the days of hangings, we would've seen that there, too (and possibly worse, since those were practically town events. Bring the children, come see a hanging!).

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Its my understanding that it wasnt actually what the guy wanted. He requested the method so as it have it overruled as cruel and unusual punishment to pave the way for further appeals. Whoops!

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Oh, wow, really ?

Yeah, "whoops", indeed. Ouch. Sounds like a plot twist worthy of "The Twilight Zone".

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I think America can do better than capital punishment. It's the 21st century, isn't it?
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Its my understanding that it wasnt actually what the guy wanted. He requested the method so as it have it overruled as cruel and unusual punishment to pave the way for further appeals. Whoops!

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Wasn't there even a thread about him doing so a few months ago?
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I'm not entirely sure how I feel on the death penalty. If I am informed correctly, there are only a few states that use it. A few years ago I wrote a paper defending the death penalty. My views have changed a bit since then. But I still feel that some people who commit certain crimes should face it. But I'm talking about the worst of the worst, with non-disputable evidence. Like Ted Bundy, or Tim McVeigh. Because at the same time, I feel many states are over-using the death penalty, such as Texas, and in this case, Utah. And lets not forget the number of those executed, who were later exonerated. As for death by firing squad, I see no issue with it if that is what he requested. I think if I were in his situation I would take firing squad as well. I heard that some contest that lethal injection is actually quite painful.
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My question is, if all of his court proceedings (hearings, trial, etc.) are, by law, open to the public, then why is his execution closed to the public? What are we hiding? Why have the courts banned public executions that were so common in our history? If the death penalty is not cruel and unusual punishment, then why can't I pack a lunch and take my family to an execution just like the old days? I'm sure there would be a lot of people who would come out to see justice in action at, say, a soccer stadium or something. Just ask the Taliban. That's how you do it. Git er done!
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I've never, ever understood why anyone would want to watch an execution for any reason. I don't get any pleasure from the idea of watching people die, I don't care who they are. Anyone who does, I would seriously suggest something's not quite right with them.

I can totally understand the loved ones wanting revenge. If somebody killed someone I loved, I'd likely be all, "Wait'll I get my hands on them...", too. I get the anger. I don't lose sleep at night over Timothy McVeigh not being here. But I also have heard stories of people who've lost loved ones in absolutely brutal crimes who still don't support the death penalty. There was a story I saw once about a girl who actually witnessed her father be murdered by some guy. She nearly lost her life to him, too. She went through a brief period of wishing death upon him, but then she changed her mind and actually fought on his behalf to keep him from getting the death penalty, instead working to get him life imprisonment. And she got her way. She explained that her father's beliefs about the death penalty (which he was fully against) and her faith led her to believing the death penalty was not the right way to punish the guy.

Aside from the fact that innocent people have been put to death, which is my strongest reason for being against the death penalty, it's really not technically even "an eye for an eye", anyway. If people really believed in that ideology, then one would assume the death inflicted on a criminal would be the exact one they inflicted on someone else. It's hardly comparable, somebody being stabbed repeatedly to death and then the person who did that gets a mere injection and slowly drifts away.

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