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No, we need people to be thrown in jail. But the law doesn’t apply to these people

Supreme Court also agreed to hear Trumps financial appeals....in March. With a decision in June.

Looking at how the GOP behaved during these hearings, how they didn’t even go the “ok what he did was wrong, but not impeachable” argument, instead they doubled down on lies and fantasy. It tells me there is no way a Democrat wins in 2020.

Rules, facts, the truth does not matter anymore. This is not a level playing field. Think of the worst thing the GOP can do, and they’ll do worse to win.

It is going to take mass protests to turn this around and i don’t think America cares enough
 
BEAL-
Move On is working on setting up mass protests against trump.


On one of the YT comments sections re the republicans complaints- the reminded people how bad Obama had been treated (ain't that the truth!).
 
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BEAL said:
No, we need people to be thrown in jail. But the law doesn’t apply to these people
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I was just making a joke with my post-just noting the sheer irony (and gall) of somebody like Giuliani, who's got a pretty questionable past of his own, trying to dig up dirt on somebody else.

But yes, I do agree it would be very nice to start seeing some of these people going away in handcuffs now.
 
if anyone wants to do some history (and i'm going to to jog more of my memories) back when Newt Gingrich was there and The House was held by Republicans - they pulled so much crap on The Dems it was unbelievable. NG had a list of words to use to describe Democrats which was like a Scorched Earth practice. Even things like even where they could meet.

And through sheer reputation; how many of you think , or hear on TV or radio "The Democrat Party"? It's not that.
It's The Democratic Party. I sometimes hear it correctly.
 
Washington Post is reporting that Trump asked Giuliani what did you get? (in Ukraine) and Ghoul said more than you can even imagine.

The way things work out for Trump I bet Joe Biden will end up dropping out.
 
from Esquire


The President Just Admitted in Court He Ran a Crooked Charity and We're All Just Gonna Shrug It Off?
Who among us has not spent $20,000 in other people's charity money on a six-foot portrait of ourselves?
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But did you see the charity thing? You should see the charity thing. It was almost water under the bridge. Our politics have gone so far down the rabbit hole that a story about how the President of the United States agreed to pay $2 million at a court's order—while admitting he used his charity for his own gain—barely made a splash. Folks saw the headline and thought to themselves, Well, yeah, of course Donald Trump ran a crooked charity. But really. Look at this.

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As part of the settlement, the president paid eight charities a total of $2 million while admitting "he misused funds raised by the Donald J. Trump Foundation to promote his presidential bid and pay off business debts, the New York State attorney general said on Tuesday."
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I certainly hope there's nothing nefarious and/or illegal that Joe Biden did in Ukraine involving Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden certainly has an interesting set of life issues and situations, I'm sure his life has been very difficult with the loss of his mother and sister in that accident. Then the loss of his surviving brother Beau.

He has had a long time drug addiction problem. He became romantically involved with Beau's widow. He then married a woman he knew for six days, she's pregnant now. A woman in Arkansas filed a paternity suit against him, he denied he was the father but a DNA test proved it.

Obviously none of that is relevant to the Ukraine situation. But I could definitely see the possibility of a powerful wealthy man trying to "make things right" for his son who has such constant life issues and struggles. Happens all the time, just not in a public way. I hope Joe didn't do any such thing in Ukraine. His connections got Hunter the job, no doubt about that.
 
Well, said MrsS. I so hope not either.

Effing Trump kids, leaving Barron out - maaaaybe he'll turn out better? Not holding my breath, tho.
It would be damn funny if he turned into a progressive! :lol:


In other news The ghoul have bern invited to testify at the Senate Hearing.
 
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remember when John Roberts stripped away the Voting Rights Act in 2013 and we were told by conservatives in here that Slave Southern States had earned the right to be treated like Free Northern States?


Brian Kemp is Georgia’s governor due to one of the most controversial elections in recent memory. As secretary of state since 2010, he had eight years to winnow the electorate to his liking before November 2018, and did so by purging 1.4 million voters from the rolls, placing thousands of registrations on hold, and overseeing the closure or relocation of nearly half of the state’s precincts and polling sites. The unstated goal — though it was clear to anyone watching similar efforts by Republicans across the South — was to reduce the voting power of unfavorable constituencies: black people, poor people, students, and others. A study from the Atlanta Journal-Constitution published on Friday shows just how successful these efforts were. Precinct closures and polling-site relocations in particular — which Kemp did not order, but allegedly encouraged and devised the guidelines for — prevented an estimated 54,000 to 85,000 voters from casting ballots last year, primarily by forcing them to travel much larger distances to vote.

The study — undertaken by an AJC data specialist and vetted by a team of nonpartisan experts — shows that the further away voters lived from their polling sites the less likely they were to cast ballots. The result in 2018 was a 1.2 to 1.8 percent difference in turnout (Stacey Abrams lost the election by 1.4 points — though in order to win she’d have needed more than 82 percent of those lost ballots, an unlikely prospect). But while this shift probably wasn’t enough to change the outcome of this particular election, the potential for closures and relocations to shape narrower races in the future is clear, especially given the racially polarized nature of the electorate. The impact is already being felt disproportionately by black voters, and by extension, the Democrats they support. Hampered to begin with by higher rates of disenfranchisement due to Kemp’s purges, heightened poverty rates, and varying types of involvement with the criminal-legal system, closed precincts or relocated polling sites made black voters 20 percent more likely to miss the 2018 election than their white counterparts.

But they weren’t alone. Between 2012 and 2018, the distance between the average Georgia voter’s home and polling site more than doubled, as 8 percent of the state’s polling sites were shut down and 40 percent of its precincts relocated. Roughly 30 percent of black voters had to cross at least half of their precinct to get to a polling location, as did nearly 20 percent of white ones. Counties in charge of implementing these changes were enticed to pursue them as cost-cutting measures, but their impact on turnout has been a bonus for austere Republicans seeking to stave off the consequences of an electorate that, in Georgia as well as other states, is becoming less white and less-reliably red. The vast majority have occurred since the U.S. Supreme Court gutted the 1965 Voting Rights Act in 2013 and no longer required these states to get federal preclearance before changing their voting laws. Georgia has been especially aggressive in its efforts to make it harder to vote ever since. According to American Public Media, it’s the only state formerly subjected to preclearance that has implemented all five of the most common voter-suppression tactics currently in use: voter ID laws, proof of citizenship requirements, purges, cuts in early voting, and polling-site closures.

Georgia voter suppression under Kemp has broad impact
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the only upside is that hopefully this will inspire greater turnout, and it's a reminder that this is all the Gzus's of the world have left -- voter suppression.
 
Irvine511 said:
remember when John Roberts stripped away the Voting Rights Act in 2013 and we were told by conservatives in here that Slave Southern States had earned the right to be treated like Free Northern States?







the only upside is that hopefully this will inspire greater turnout, and it's a reminder that this is all the Gzus's of the world have left -- voter suppression.
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Haha!! First of all dude, why are you obsessed with me?

Secondly, this entire article says well, we can't link these closures to this guy, BUT, or well, due to crime, less people are voting (because they're in jail!), or again, the blatant leftist racism that the black community is too stupid to go to a different polling place, or is somehow marooned and can't get there.

I've lived in poor communities for years, first of all poor doesn't necessarily mean black, secondly, poor people can travel, by car, bus, Lyft, it IS possible.

This article is MORE Democratic blabbering with no facts to link anything to anyone, hey, that sounds familiar!
 
Gzusfrk said:
Haha!! First of all dude, why are you obsessed with me?



Secondly, this entire article says well, we can't link these closures to this guy, BUT, or well, due to crime, less people are voting (because they're in jail!), or again, the blatant leftist racism that the black community is too stupid to go to a different polling place, or is somehow marooned and can't get there.



I've lived in poor communities for years, first of all poor doesn't necessarily mean black, secondly, poor people can travel, by car, bus, Lyft, it IS possible.



This article is MORE Democratic blabbering with no facts to link anything to anyone, hey, that sounds familiar!
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You’re the one following me around, snowflake.

And yet, Republicans continue to purge voters and shutter polling places in states where minorty populations rise and red states that grow more purple with each year. Ask yourself why.

But you do have a point. More elderly voters should use their Obamaphones to Uber across their counties to vote.
 
No he’s right, we are all obsessed with him.

He brings great humor in the form of a living meme, the notion that he’s just craaaazy about Jesus Christ. He’s soooo Christian. He’s so religious, he loves Jesus. He practices all of Jesus’s lessons. He is... Jesus freak!

I’m happy to listen and debate and argue opposing views. I’m happy to be friends with people who have other views. But an aggressive pseudo-Christian, no thank you.
 
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He is... Jesus freak!
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I’m obsessed with Gzus because I’m drunk, horny, and looking for a quick hookup.
 
surprise surprise :|

from wsweek

Rudy Giuliani and Ukraine Prosecutor Wanted US Ambassador Yovanovitch 'Out of the Way,' Report Says
Benjamin Fearnow 56 mins ago

Marie L. Yovanovitch wearing glasses: Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch testifies before the House Intelligence Committee in the Longworth House Office Building on Capitol Hill November 15, 2019 in Washington, D.C. In the second impeachment hearing held by the committee, House Democrats continue to build a case against President Donald Trump's efforts to link U.S. military aid for Ukraine to the nation's investigation of his political rivals.
© Chip Somodevilla/Getty Former U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch testifies before the House Intelligence Committee in the Longworth House Office Building on Capitol Hill November 15, 2019 in Washington, D.C. In the second impeachment…
President Donald Trump's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani confirmed that he and allegedly "corrupt" former Ukraine prosecutor Yuriy Lutsenko needed ex-U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch "out of the way" in order to conduct an investigation into the Biden family, The New Yorker reported Monday.
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