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Old 08-13-2019, 07:31 AM   #316
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Guys I don't even like Trump. I just hop in to defend his every action and never say an actual criticism as a part of my "Own The Libs" action plan.
He's just following the typical conservative approach.

Support and argue on behalf of the corrupt, immoral leader who doesn't actually appear to believe in any of the tenets of conservatism (or any tenets of any sort really).

When said leader inevitably fails and the majority of the public turns on him and the party, choose one or more of the following approaches:

a) argue that he was not a real conservative (i.e. conservatism can't fail, but people can)
b) deny ever having supported him (like how GWB managed to get elected twice yet people willing to openly admit they voted for him are suddenly an endangered species)
c) claim that you supported him initially but ceased to do so when it became obvious that he was corrupt (hoping that the rest of us don't notice that you defended his actions until literally the second he was unseated)
d) declare yourself an independent and state that "both sides suck" (again hoping that nobody notices that you actively supported one side only)

It's coming.
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Old 08-13-2019, 11:49 AM   #317
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A top US immigration official has revised a quote inscribed on the Statue of Liberty in defence of a new policy that denies food aid to legal migrants.

The head of Citizenship and Immigration Services tweaked the passage: "Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breath free".

The official added the words "who can stand on their own two feet and who will not become a public charge".

It comes as Trump officials debuted a regulation that denies aid to migrants.

Ken Cuccinelli, the Trump administration's acting head of Citizenship and Immigration Services, announced on Monday a new "public charge" requirement that limits legal migrants from seeking certain public benefits such as public housing or food aid, or are considered likely to do so in the future.

The new regulation, known as a "public charge rule", was published in the Federal Register on Monday and will take effect on 15 October.

The rule change is intended to reinforce "ideals of self-sufficiency", officials said. Critics argue that it will prevent low-income US residents from seeking help.

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On Tuesday, Mr Cuccinelli was asked by NPR whether the 1883 poem titled The New Colossus at the Statue of Liberty on New York's Ellis Island still applied.

"Would you also agree that Emma Lazarus's words etched on the Statue of Liberty, 'Give me your tired, give me your poor,' are also a part of the American ethos?" asked NPR's Rachel Martin.

"They certainly are," Mr Cuccinelli responded. "Give me your tired and your poor - who can stand on their own two feet and who will not become a public charge."


"That plaque was put on the Statue of Liberty at almost the same time as the first public charge [law] was passed - very interesting timing," he added.

The actual passage reads in part: "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"

In the interview, he added that immigrants are welcome "who can stand on their own two feet, be self-sufficient, pull themselves up by their bootstraps, again, as in the American tradition".
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Old 08-13-2019, 01:06 PM   #318
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He's just following the typical conservative approach.

Support and argue on behalf of the corrupt, immoral leader who doesn't actually appear to believe in any of the tenets of conservatism (or any tenets of any sort really).

When said leader inevitably fails and the majority of the public turns on him and the party, choose one or more of the following approaches:

a) argue that he was not a real conservative (i.e. conservatism can't fail, but people can)
b) deny ever having supported him (like how GWB managed to get elected twice yet people willing to openly admit they voted for him are suddenly an endangered species)
c) claim that you supported him initially but ceased to do so when it became obvious that he was corrupt (hoping that the rest of us don't notice that you defended his actions until literally the second he was unseated)
d) declare yourself an independent and state that "both sides suck" (again hoping that nobody notices that you actively supported one side only)

It's coming.
What do liberals do when they have no response to presented facts about how corrupt and inept the Democrat Party is?

Say "he likes Trump but won't admit it!" I used to not believe in Trump Derangement Syndrome, but the handful of you have made me a believer.

Honestly if I liked Trump as a person I would have no problem saying so, because you're opinion of me doesn't keep me up at night.

I will proudly say that conservative policies create a better economy, more focus on what the Constitution actually says, more freedom for ALL (even the "socialists " in this country) and are the answer to eliminating the horrible Democrat run inner cities that have been poor for 50 years, and are still poor because of liberal policies.

More and more people of color are realizing that they are not oppressed by anyone, and they already have the freedom to work hard and make a better life for themselves without hanging on to the Democrat welfare system which punishes marriage and hard work, and incentivizes fatherlessness and laziness.

But you go ahead and obsess over whether or not I'm a Trump guy. You have more to work with than actually discussing liberal policies for America.
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Old 08-13-2019, 01:32 PM   #319
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More and more people of color are realizing that they are not oppressed by anyone, and they already have the freedom to work hard and make a better life for themselves without hanging on to the Democrat welfare system which punishes marriage and hard work, and incentivizes fatherlessness and laziness.
Record black unemployment!

And yes, the Democrats as a political party are inept. I'm not sure why you think we disagree as it's been said on this thread probably a hundred times.
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Yes, Americans inner-cities could certainly learn a thing or two from the opioid ravaged poverty of Republican controlled rural red America.

By virtually every metric, blue states outperform red states, and the blue cities are where opportunity and jobs are created.
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I will proudly say that conservative policies create a better economy, more focus on what the Constitution actually says, more freedom for ALL (even the "socialists " in this country) and are the answer to eliminating the horrible Democrat run inner cities that have been poor for 50 years, and are still poor because of liberal policies.

More and more people of color are realizing that they are not oppressed by anyone, and they already have the freedom to work hard and make a better life for themselves without hanging on to the Democrat welfare system which punishes marriage and hard work, and incentivizes fatherlessness and laziness.
you very obviously do not give one single flying shit about the living conditions of any person of color in the entire united states of america except when you can use them as a political prop.
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Old 08-13-2019, 02:30 PM   #323
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What do liberals do when they have no response to presented facts about how corrupt and inept the Democrat Party is?



Say "he likes Trump but won't admit it!" I used to not believe in Trump Derangement Syndrome, but the handful of you have made me a believer.



Honestly if I liked Trump as a person I would have no problem saying so, because you're opinion of me doesn't keep me up at night.



I will proudly say that conservative policies create a better economy, more focus on what the Constitution actually says, more freedom for ALL (even the "socialists " in this country) and are the answer to eliminating the horrible Democrat run inner cities that have been poor for 50 years, and are still poor because of liberal policies.



More and more people of color are realizing that they are not oppressed by anyone, and they already have the freedom to work hard and make a better life for themselves without hanging on to the Democrat welfare system which punishes marriage and hard work, and incentivizes fatherlessness and laziness.



But you go ahead and obsess over whether or not I'm a Trump guy. You have more to work with than actually discussing liberal policies for America.

What do people do when they are incapable of engaging?

They argue against strawmen, in this case you’re constantly arguing against a party over country crowd, but the truth is no one in here is like that. It’s how we constantly know what you’re going to say, you just regurgitate the Trump talking points of the week.

When you’re not arguing strawmen you’re posting fake memes and pretend they’re facts.

Now do you really want to talk derangement syndromes?
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:20 PM   #324
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As the peefster says, this man does not argue in good faith, why take him seriously?

Tho I mean he’s kinda basically the Rick James of Christians, so like... maybe we are all just absolutely blinded by his light.
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:48 PM   #325
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Miller with the immigration Legislation
Pence with the anti gay side
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But...but...Trump held up a rainbow flag at an event once, so that totally makes this administration gay-friendly!
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Miller with the immigration Legislation
Pence with the anti gay side


It’s about the votes of the Christianist base who thinks that having to acknowledge the existence of trans people is a form of anti-Christian discrimination. They love it when you kick a tranny. Gets them excited.

All this scattershot insanity has no rhyme or reason beyond votes.
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The two staff members who were guarding the jail unit where Jeffrey Epstein apparently killed himself fell asleep and failed to check on him for about three hours, then falsified records to cover up their mistake, according to several law enforcement and prison officials with knowledge of the matter.
Sometimes the simple answer is the answer.
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You have to give it to the 2nd amendment folks. They stand up for what they believe in. Just look at the mass protests and outcry on social media over Sebastian Telfair going to prison.



What's that? There's not a peep from the right? I don't understand why...
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^If he shoots a gun like a basketball, no need to incarcerate him, he'd never hit anyone.
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