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Old 10-19-2017, 02:34 PM   #76
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Old 10-19-2017, 04:15 PM   #77
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Trump is a shit stain on the entire world.

Those who voted for him deserve no better. The rest of us, however, have to carry this fetid stench for who knows how long. We are all worse for having to live through this.
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Old 10-19-2017, 04:42 PM   #78
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I can't recall, but did you vote for Trump?
I wrote in Evan McMullin. Wasn't on the ballot in my state.
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Old 10-19-2017, 07:26 PM   #79
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I wrote in Evan McMullin. Wasn't on the ballot in my state.
Interested to know your reasons for this? Simple curiousity.
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Old 10-19-2017, 08:58 PM   #80
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Interested to know your reasons for this? Simple curiosity.
Sure. Two historically awful candidates put up by the major parties. Assumed no impact on Maine's congressional district electoral vote. And Mr. McMullin's ideas were in the ballpark for me. All together, enough for a write-in.
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I could get behind Evan McMullin.
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:47 PM   #82
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Even if I had respect for the CIA (no surprises there), McMullin wouldn't impress me a great deal. That's just my take.
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Old 10-19-2017, 11:49 PM   #83
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I don't like McMullin. But I can respect the vote.
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Sure. Two historically awful candidates put up by the major parties. Assumed no impact on Maine's congressional district electoral vote. And Mr. McMullin's ideas were in the ballpark for me. All together, enough for a write-in.



So you didn’t do everything you could to prevent the disaster/crisis we have unfolding before our eyes.
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Old 10-20-2017, 02:59 AM   #85
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So you didn’t do everything you could to prevent the disaster/crisis we have unfolding before our eyes.
I get the sentiment but surely you can't expect every Republican to vote for an historically unpopular candidate in Clinton, just because Trump was/is a fucking fanny.
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I get the sentiment but surely you can't expect every Republican to vote for an historically unpopular candidate in Clinton, just because Trump was/is a fucking fanny.


If the goal is to prevent him from entering the White House, there was a best way to do that. It also would have sent a message that racism and sexual assault are, actually, bad things and should be the defining characteristics of the POTUS.

I know many Republicans — the country club/chamber of commerce type — who voted for HRC.

I also know many dipshits who felt that voting Johnson or Stein was somehow a noble act because they wanted to protest the two party system.

Because the two parties are exactly the same. Aren’t they.

We all see that now. Totally the same. The two parties. Can’t tell a difference.
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Old 10-20-2017, 08:17 AM   #87
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Far be it from me to *ever* quite a monstrous simpleton like W in any sort of positive context, but we are living in the Upside Down these days.

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"Our identity as a nation — unlike many other nations — is not determined by geography or ethnicity, by soil or blood. Being an American involves the embrace of high ideals and civic responsibility. We become the heirs of Thomas Jefferson by accepting the ideal of human dignity found in the Declaration of Independence. We become the heirs of James Madison by understanding the genius and values of the U.S. Constitution. We become the heirs of Martin Luther King, Jr., by recognizing one another not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.

This means that people of every race, religion, and ethnicity can be fully and equally American. It means that bigotry or white supremacy in any form is blasphemy against the American creed."
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I think some people (white) were OK with the racism, sexism, and bigotry as long as the swamp was drained and their income/jobs were restored.

Which of course they could vote that way and not fear repercussions
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I think some people (white) were OK with the racism, sexism, and bigotry as long as the swamp was drained and their income/jobs were restored.

Which of course they could vote that way and not fear repercussions



But the sexual assault, multiple wives -‘d children, the rape accusations, the fat shaming, the daughter-lust, the measuring of a woman’s value in terms of her fuckability — how did white women explain this to themselves?
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But the sexual assault, multiple wives -‘d children, the rape accusations, the fat shaming, the daughter-lust, the measuring of a woman’s value in terms of her fuckability — how did white women explain this to themselves?
I think something like 53% of white women voted for him (so gross and disappointing)

I'd be interested in knowing what the % of evangelical/fundie white women + rural, uneducated white women was within that 53%. My guess is a large bulk. These are women who either believe it is their Godly duty to follow their "headship" (husband) or just defer to their gun totin' racist man because they were raised in that environment.
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