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Old 07-13-2017, 06:15 PM   #136
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The Russian story is all wrong, guys. We should be talking about how the Democratic aren't far enough to the left.

Nothing would have swung rural white voters like a more progressive agenda.
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While the Russia story should dominate I do think it's fair for the Dems to be trying to figure out how to unite their party.

Can they find a candidate that satisfies both progressives and centrists ? You can laugh but Clintons voting record was pretty fucking liberal (Iraq war being her biggest blunder in congress)

Attacking trump is not the direction to go. Trump is immune to attacks and only Trump harms Trump. So let him continue to fuck up.

Because of Gerrymandering the Dems are going to struggle to get much of anything in 2018, so they really need their superstar to emerge for 2020.

No clue who that would be. Guess you could say Warren but I feel she isn't the best communicator. But she does have her toes in both sides

Or we get The Rock
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Can they find a candidate that satisfies both progressives and centrists ?
I honestly do believe there's bound to be a candidate out there who will be able to do that. Hopefully, whoever it is, they'll start making waves in the media as soon as possible so we can start getting the momentum going.

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Attacking trump is not the direction to go. Trump is immune to attacks and only Trump harms Trump. So let him continue to fuck up.
I also agree with this. Tempting as it no doubt would be, the Democratic candidate needs to keep their focus on getting their message out, and doing so in creative and inventive ways at that. Presenting themselves as the refreshing antidote to the insult-happy, offensive Trump could do wonders if they handle it right.
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I honestly do believe there's bound to be a candidate out there who will be able to do that.
It me.
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Hey, I'd vote for you if you ran .
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Which means that individual tweet is wrong?
Not necessarily, but why should anyone listen to him?

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Can they find a candidate that satisfies both progressives and centrists ? You can laugh but Clintons voting record was pretty fucking liberal (Iraq war being her biggest blunder in congress)
Won't happen, but Warren would be the closest bet.
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The Russian story is all wrong, guys. We should be talking about how the Democratic aren't far enough to the left.

Nothing would have swung rural white voters like a more progressive agenda.
On the contrary, I believe the Democrats need to be more like the Republicans.
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Except back then even Republicans came around and sided against Nixon.

All we're getting is crickets from the other side. Do you see ANY reason to believe that the Republicans will put country first? I sure don't.
Idk, but I hope that at least a few esp the longer term ones that their memories of Reagan, GHWB, W (mostly bad actions accordng to us liberal/ progressives) will hit a tipping point of cognitive dissidence w what trump is doing that will trigger speaking out against trump.
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Nothing would have swung rural white voters like a more progressive agenda.
it just has to be populist.
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it just has to be populist.


Yes please, we need another candidate that caters to the lowest common denominator.
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Populist has become such a meaningless term.
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i swear this is a huge massive VERY PRESIDENTIAL troll



https://www.theguardian.com/world/vi...on-trump-video
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And it keeps getting juicier by the hour!

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Hey, I'd vote for you if you ran .
Me too, but then there are several species of fungus that I would vote for over the incumbent.
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I miss when this country was ran by adults:

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