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Old 10-25-2009, 06:58 AM   #1
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UK overseas aid?

UK gives India £300M aid annually. This year, India is spending £1.7Bn on putting a man in space. Should UK (or anyother country) be giving aid to countries such as this, when there are far more worthy countries?

India’s economy is about 50% bigger than Britain’s, the country has more millionaires than the UK, so why should British taxpayers continue to help?
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The country also has nuclear weapons last time I checked too.
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Old 10-25-2009, 08:00 AM   #3
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Is there a British guilt complex concerning their colonial past that influences this?
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Does this £300M go to NGOs/aid agencies, or the government who fund these pricey trips to space? Also, while parts of India are extremely wealthy, many parts are a very impoverished. Define worthy, I spose.
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I would rather the aid went to a country who dont have nuclear capabilities and who have a space program and has more millionaires than the country giving aid!
There are plenty of countries with widespread poverty, or you could even argue there are plenty of deserving causes within our own borders!
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How much of UKs wealth is built on ripping off former colonies?
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Old 10-25-2009, 09:57 PM   #7
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It's as close as the UK gets to having their own space program, so why not?
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UK gives India £300M aid annually. This year, India is spending £1.7Bn on putting a man in space. Should UK (or anyother country) be giving aid to countries such as this, when there are far more worthy countries?

The UK itself being 1 of them!!!!!
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Old 10-28-2009, 01:23 PM   #9
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Not sure what the source for that "more millionaires than the UK" claim is. Acoording to the 2009 Merrill Lynch/Capgemini WWR, the standard reference for tracking that data, India currently has 84,000 millionaires, the UK 362,000. Far more relevant here though, India's purchasing-parity-adjusted GNI per capita--the measurement aid agencies use to determine development level--is only $2960, compared to the UK's $36,130. Fully one-third of the world's poor (i.e., those living below the $1.25/day international poverty line) live in India, where they comprise 42% of the population. (An additional 33% of Indians live on less than $2/day--meaning India actually has a greater proportion of people in that income category than sub-Saharan Africa does.) It is true that by some of the conventional measurements (definitely not GDP!), India's economy is about half again as large as the UK's, but considering that India's population is 19 times larger, that doesn't mean much.

As for the space program, India's had that for 40 years; it's nothing new, and like most other space programs, is valued as much for its capacity to jumpstart research and technology in indirectly related fields (India's satellite networks, for example) as for its symbolic nationalistic value. The Indian government has budgeted Rs. 386 crore (about $82 million/£50 million) for the next moon mission (which is scheduled for 2013, not 2009). As space programs go, it's hardly a lavish one; nonetheless, it's certainly always had its fierce critics within India, who blast it for the same reasons as gman. (Their nuclear program, not so much--consider who India's neighbors are and what kinds of weapons they have.)

The UK Department for International Development has comprehensive reports accounting for their spending in India on their website; it's pretty much all directed into education, healthcare, rural development, and urban poverty projects in 4 of India's poorest states. If I were a British citizen concerned about whatever proportion of my tax dollars goes to India via UKDID, I'd start by studying that.
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