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Old 01-27-2011, 10:39 AM   #1
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Ugandan gay rights activist beaten to death

BBC News - Uganda gay rights activist David Kato killed

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Uganda's Rolling Stone newspaper published the photographs of several people it said were gay next to a headline reading "Hang them".

Rolling Stone editor Giles Muhame told Reuters news agency he condemned the murder and that the paper had not wanted gays to be attacked.

"There has been a lot of crime, it may not be because he is gay," he said.

"We want the government to hang people who promote homosexuality, not for the public to attack them."
It's not surprising, but no less tragic. A fearless voice indeed.

Recommend this obituary blog by one of David's friends. You can feel the fear and devastation dripping from every word.
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Old 01-27-2011, 02:34 PM   #2
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"We want the government to hang people who promote homosexuality, not for the public to attack them."
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Old 01-27-2011, 02:59 PM   #3
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My thoughts exactly, Liesje. That those words came come out of someones mouth so nonchalantly is disgusting
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I thought, I can't possibly be reading that right?........
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Disgusting.

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"We want the government to hang people who promote homosexuality, not for the public to attack them."
We don't want them murdered, we want them executed. We don't want to chalk it up to random violence, we want their deaths to be state-sanctioned.

Ah, I see. A lovely sentiment, indeed.

I won't even quote that vile picture, seeing it once is way more than enough.
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BACKGROUND: Evidence Of Scott Lively's Complicity In The Murder Of David Kato

Yesterday Ugandan LGBT activist David Kato was bludgeoned to death in his home just weeks after his photo was emblazoned on the cover of a local newspaper with the accompanying headline "HANG THEM!" The newspaper articles and Kato's murder came after months of international outrage over Uganda's proposed and still-pending "kill gays" bill, legislation that orders the death penalty for homosexuals in some cases and life imprisonment in others.

The inspiration for Uganda's gay death penalty bill, and surely, Kato's murder, arises from the work of American evangelists, chief among them the repulsive anti-gay activist Scott Lively, whose infamous book The Pink Swastika blames the rise of the Nazi Party and the Holocaust on gay men. One year ago, the New York Times profiled Lively's hand in Uganda's burgeoning pogrom against homosexuals, which began after Lively hosted a three-day meeting attended by thousands of Ugandan police, teachers, and politicians.

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The three Americans who spoke at the conference — Scott Lively, a missionary who has written several books against homosexuality, including “7 Steps to Recruit-Proof Your Child”; Caleb Lee Brundidge, a self-described former gay man who leads “healing seminars”; and Don Schmierer, a board member of Exodus International, whose mission is “mobilizing the body of Christ to minister grace and truth to a world impacted by homosexuality” — are now trying to distance themselves from the bill.

“I feel duped,” Mr. Schmierer said, arguing that he had been invited to speak on “parenting skills” for families with gay children. He acknowledged telling audiences how homosexuals could be converted into heterosexuals, but he said he had no idea some Ugandans were contemplating the death penalty for homosexuality. “That’s horrible, absolutely horrible,” he said. “Some of the nicest people I have ever met are gay people.”

Mr. Lively and Mr. Brundidge have made similar remarks in interviews or statements issued by their organizations. But the Ugandan organizers of the conference admit helping draft the bill, and Mr. Lively has acknowledged meeting with Ugandan lawmakers to discuss it. He even wrote on his blog in March that someone had likened their campaign to “a nuclear bomb against the gay agenda in Uganda.” Later, when confronted with criticism, Mr. Lively said he was very disappointed that the legislation was so harsh. Human rights advocates in Uganda say the visit by the three Americans helped set in motion what could be a very dangerous cycle. Gay Ugandans already describe a world of beatings, blackmail, death threats like “Die Sodomite!” scrawled on their homes, constant harassment and even so-called correctional rape.
Yesterday Scott Lively's "nuclear bomb" against Ugandan gays went off in the form of the iron bar which crushed the skull of David Kato. In some countries, it's possible that Lively would be under arrest today. Also complicit in this murder is Peter LaBarbera, who for years has worked to publicize and praise Scott Lively's evil agenda. Then there's Tony Perkins and the Family Research Council, who last year paid lobbyists $25,000 to convince members of Congress to block a planned resolution denouncing Uganda's gay death penalty bill. And let's not forget Pastor Rick Warren, who supported, funded, appeared with, and publicized the work of Uganda's leading anti-gay activist, Pastor Martin Ssempa.

Today we mourn David Kato, a brave LGBT activist who paid the ultimate price in defense of his brothers and sisters. But we've also got start looking at some serious legal remedies to the actions of American anti-gay activists in other countries. Outside of the United States, many legals systems are not so constrained by the American concept of freedom of speech. What can we do to leverage that difference to end this madness? Lawsuits? The Hague?

Joe. My. God.: BACKGROUND: Evidence Of Scott Lively's Complicity In The Murder Of David Kato


YouTube - Anti-Gay bill In Uganda being homosexual could be punishable by death.flv



also, the Ugandan minister is obsessed -- obsessed -- with coprophila. there's a hilarious remix of his speeches.
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Scott Lively is an idiot.

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If this were a group of American Muslims visiting a conservative Muslim country to advise them on how to protect their women from corruption by modernity, with similar results, imagine what the public reaction here would be. I don't actually think Lively et al. intended that outcome, but it's a bit like the Neturei Karta protesting they didn't recognize the agenda behind Ahmadinejad's Holocaust denial conference--stick to fucking up your own folk, don't go lighting matches with people whose social and cultural boundaries you can't clearly perceive or understand.

I wonder how many Ugandans believe the AIDS epidemic is caused by homosexuality?
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That picture makes me sick to my stomach. Ugh. As does that quote. What. The. FUCK?

The obituary makes me want to cry. And Irvine beat me to it, I was just going to comment on the disturbing support of the anti-homosexuality bill by some people here in the States. This right here...

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Then there's Tony Perkins and the Family Research Council, who last year paid lobbyists $25,000 to convince members of Congress to block a planned resolution denouncing Uganda's gay death penalty bill.
...is downright SHAMEFUL. Especially given that some in Congress didn't seem to exactly have a problem with this. Pardon me while I puke.

God, this whole thing makes me angry. So sad to hear of this man's death, may he rest in peace and may many other people there (and elsewhere) continue the work he started and so passionately fought for.

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I agree with you, Angela. This young man's murder is horrible. No other job that I am aware of in the U.S. Asks about sexual orientation. I thought it was illegal. So why should the military? It is a job/career. When I applied for a secretarial postion, sexual orientation was not on the application. They just needed to know if I was married or single, etc. for tax purposes.
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I agree with you, Angela. This young man's murder is horrible. No other job that I am aware of in the U.S. Asks about sexual orientation. I thought it was illegal. So why should the military? It is a job/career. When I applied for a secretarial postion, sexual orientation was not on the application. They just needed to know if I was married or single, etc. for tax purposes.
You do realize we're not talking about a murder in the United States, but one of a gay rights activist in Uganda, right?

You should also realize that we're not talking about employers asking about sexual orientation, something that might be happening in Uganda, but not in the U.S., that I'm aware of.
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I'm disgusted by this whole thing, but are they seriously trying to claim on the front cover of that magazine that "Homos" were quoted as saying, "We shall recruit 1,000,000 innocent kids by 2012"?
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You do realize we're not talking about a murder in the United States, but one of a gay rights activist in Uganda, right?

You should also realize that we're not talking about employers asking about sexual orientation, something that might be happening in Uganda, but not in the U.S., that I'm aware of.

Yes, I do. David's friend wrote a beautiful obitury. Like Angela, it made me cry.

My comment was in reference to the video link you posted in this thread as to whether Gay, Bisexual and Lesbians serving openly in the Armed Forces like they do in many other countries. I think they should. Homophobia needs be a thing of the past. Whether it is in the U.S. Uganda or elsewhere. David lost his life because he believed in equality and human rights for all citizens.

Rest in peace David. You are a gentle soul.
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