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Old 04-09-2010, 08:24 PM   #1
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U S Supreme Court - all related issues

We will be getting some decisions coming down soon. that may merit discussion


and, of course a new appointment


SUPREME COURT PICK: Hatch warns Obama about pending Supreme Court pick - KSTU
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I think he should pick a moderate, pro-choice woman.
Moderate in the sense that she wouldn't have any serious baggage that could be easily turned into a political football. He needs a relatively clean fight.

And yes, I do think he should specifically choose another woman.
Only having two women on the court is ludicrous.
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White House: Obama eyeing 10 people for top court
(AP) – 23 hours ago

WASHINGTON — A White House aide says President Barack Obama is considering about 10 people to replace retiring Supreme Court Justice John Paul Stevens.

The aide would not provide names. Among those thought to be on the list are federal appeals court judges Merrick Garland of Washington and Diane Wood of Chicago.

Another is U.S. Solicitor General Elena Kagan, and possibly Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm.

The White House aide spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal considerations.

Obama said Friday he will move quickly to name a nominee, and he asked the Senate for a swift confirmation process.
It is pretty early to make any predictions, but here is mine:

Elena Kagan, and she gets around 66-69 votes to confirm.
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It is pretty early to make any predictions, but here is mine:

Elena Kagan, and she gets around 66-69 votes to confirm.
I'm with you on this one. Elena Kagan seems to be the most logical choice. I am 97% sure that it will be a woman. If it's a man, I'd like nothing more than Obama to stick it to the right with Goodwin Liu. Frankly I'd like to stick it to them with Pam Karlan, who is one of the most impressive legal minds I have ever read or heard speak.

But Elena Kagan fits the bill - her qualifications are unimpeacheable, she's already SG, there are a couple of GOP senators like Snowe and Collins who can't not vote for her, etc. I don't think anyone at this point is going to get 70+ votes because Republicans are total obstructionists and little more. Which is why Obama should extend his middle finger and nominate Pam Karlan, imagine a bisexual atheist female from San Francisco, that alone might thin out the Republican herd.
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I hope you are right about him picking a woman.
I just fear that he will cave into political fear and pick Garland, who is apparently the name some Reps have floated as a "safe" choice.

Going on what I've read and heard in the last few days, Kagan would be considered a moderate choice. Wood would not. I'm only passing on pundit opinions, not my own.

Of course, I am sure the person he picks will be vilified within hours of their selection, regardless.
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I'm with you on this one. Elena Kagan seems to be the most logical choice. I am 97% sure that it will be a woman. If it's a man, I'd like nothing more than Obama to stick it to the right with Goodwin Liu. Frankly I'd like to stick it to them with Pam Karlan, who is one of the most impressive legal minds I have ever read or heard speak.

But Elena Kagan fits the bill - her qualifications are unimpeacheable, she's already SG, there are a couple of GOP senators like Snowe and Collins who can't not vote for her, etc. I don't think anyone at this point is going to get 70+ votes because Republicans are total obstructionists and little more. Which is why Obama should extend his middle finger and nominate Pam Karlan, imagine a bisexual atheist female from San Francisco, that alone might thin out the Republican herd.
He can't even get Liu on the 9th Circuit, I hope he does. If Obama gets a second term, maybe he can get Liu on the Supreme Court then. I'd like to see him there, too.

Karlan? We do have 435 Congressional elections in November.

As for Kagan, I can't see all of the GOP going after her hard and leaving themselves open to charges of anti-Semitism. Since they seem to be wanting to portray themselves as Israel's only true friends.

The last thing I want to see is any more Opus Dei, nut jobs on the Court, there are way too many now.
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If it's a man, I'd like nothing more than Obama to stick it to the right with Goodwin Liu. Frankly I'd like to stick it to them with Pam Karlan, who is one of the most impressive legal minds I have ever read or heard speak.
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my imagination is not very good

so I did a google search

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Gender: Female

Sexuality: Bisexual

Religion: Animism





right now, I'm stayin' with Elena Kagan
I would really like to see the GOP attack her.
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He can't even get Liu on the 9th Circuit, I hope he does. If Obama gets a second term, maybe he can get Liu on the Supreme Court then. I'd like to see him there, too.
I think he'll get past cloture. He's very impressive and very young, and would be a good replacement for Ruth Bader Ginsberg.

Stevens has said that every single justice who has been named to the SCOTUS after him has been more conservative than the person he or she was replacing with the sole exception of Ginsberg. And the statistics support his assertion. This is because the Republicans don't give a shit about bipartisanship or moderation and name freaks like Alito to the court.

It is unfortunate that the SCOTUS is a political body essentially. The Canadian one is nothing like it. Then again we also have a female chief justice...outrageous I know.
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Justice Stevens is the sole Protestant on the Supreme Court.

Identity Politics dictates that a Protestant be named to replace him.

1/2 of the United States population cannot be disenfranchsisied.
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You are that worried about Elena Kagan?
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He/She is to rule on legal issues, not on theologian issues. No one would be disenfrenchised, no matter his/her religion.
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Glenn Beck prepared his listeners Friday for a "radical" Supreme Court nominee after news broke that Justice John Paul Stevens would retire at the end of the court's current term.

Beck believes that President Obama will--"if he's smart"--select a "gay-handicapped-black woman who's an immigrant" to energize what Beck perceives to be the president's flagging Democratic base. The Fox News host told radio listeners that the diversity of the imaginary, aforementioned nominee would be used against critics to "make the right and the middle-right into monsters."

Beck: She could be the devil, she could say 'I hate America, I want to destroy America,' and that way they'll only be able to say, 'Oh, Why do you hate gay immigrant black, gay, handicapped women.' Because that's what this has to be. It must be about.. And when I say this, I mean all of it.

They must energize their base. And Their base is getting smaller and smaller. Their base is becoming unions, thugs, MoveOn.org, Huffington Post--that's their base.

And anybody who has said, 'OK, wait a minute. I wanted universal health care. This is starting to spook me.'

They must make the right and the middle-right into monsters. Because they're losing those people on the middle-left ... those people on the middle-left back into their camp. And they can't do it without hatred and fear. That's all they're doing. That's why as they get louder, we must get softer.


Beck might be disappointed in Obama's nominee.

While there's no word yet from the White House about the identity of the president's selection, HuffPost reporters Ryan Grim and Sam Stein have identified Elena Kagan, Obama's solicitor general, as a frontrunner.
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