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Old 05-10-2010, 03:15 PM   #31
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the Christofascist right is already calling her a lesbian.

seems like she probably is. who knows? i'd almost like it to come out and we can all discuss it. would love to see someone try to defend the point that being gay or lesbian automatically disqualifies you from SCOTUS.

She needs to be more like Condi Rice, make jokes about her husband, Obama

having bought property with her SO, under the radar (gaydar)


if she is gay, she will have to recuse herself from anything related to gay-issues, such as the Prop 8 lawsuit Ted Olson is pursuing.
She obviously would have a bias.
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Old 05-10-2010, 05:30 PM   #32
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In a blog post for the far-right American Family Association (AFA) today, Bryan Fischer comes right out and says that the media should pointedly ask Kagan, “Are you a lesbian?” And if she is, according to AFA, she shouldn’t serve on the court:

It’s time we got over the myth that what a public servant does in his private life is of no consequence. We cannot afford to have another sexually abnormal individual in a position of important civic responsibility, especially when that individual could become one of nine votes in an out of control oligarchy that constantly usurps constitutional prerogatives to unethically and illegally legislate for 300 million Americans.

The stakes are too high. Social conservatives must rise up as one and say no lesbian is qualified to sit on the Supreme Court. Will they?
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i think she sails through like Roberts. slam dunk.
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Old 05-10-2010, 05:55 PM   #34
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really? 78=22

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On September 22, the Senate Judiciary Committee approved Roberts' nomination by a vote of 13–5, with Senators Ted Kennedy, Richard Durbin, Charles Schumer, Joe Biden and Dianne Feinstein casting the dissenting votes. Roberts was confirmed by the full Senate on September 29 by a margin of 78–22.
I think she will get less than 60 votes

with few if any GOP voting for her. I guess it is safe for Bob Bennett to vote for her now.
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She's going to be confirmed. I still think it'll be something like 62-65 votes.

Of course the GOP has lost its collective mind so I could also see a vote of just short of 60.
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a third of the senate is up every two years, so we have this Nov and 2012 looming large

why would any GOP risk voting for her? it would just enable a viable challenge in GOP Senate primaries,
look at what happened in UT and to Crist in FL
where is the up side to voting for her? for a GOP Senator?
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a third of the senate is up every two years, so we have this Nov and 2012 looming large

why would any GOP risk voting for her? it would just enable a viable challenge in GOP Senate primaries,
look at what happened in UT and to Crist in FL
where is the up side to voting for her? for a GOP Senator?
I think a couple of the women from New England will vote for her (Olympia Snowe and Susan Collins). They represent different constituencies and for them to openly and in a hostile manner oppose an accomplished woman like Elena Kagan probably isn't a good thing.
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that sounds reasonable, Collins is not up for reelection until 2014
Snowe is up again in 2012, I don't know how much she would have to worry about a challenge in her primary then.
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A long time ago, in a galaxy far far away, Republicans used to vote for SC nominees on the principle that the Constitution gives the President the prerogative, end of story.

Ginsburg (appointed by Clinton) 96-3
Breyer (appointed by Clinton) 87-9

It was one thing I always admired about the Republicans.
They did have some principle at one time. I know, like I said, another galaxy...

Democrats are too diluted (or diverse) to ever have similar principles.
That's neither a good or bad thing, IMO, it just is what it is. Mostly, less effective politics. Unfortunate.
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On October 31, 2005 President Bush announced that he was nominating Alito to O'Connor's seat, and he submitted the nomination to the Senate on November 10, 2005
Judge Alito was unanimously rated "well qualified" to fill the Associate Justice post by the American Bar Association's Standing Committee on Federal Judiciary, which measures the professional qualifications of a nominee. The committee rates judges as "not qualified," "qualified," or "well qualified."

On January 24, his nomination was voted out of the Senate Judiciary Committee on a 10-8 party line vote.

After a failed filibuster attempt by Senator John Kerry, on January 31, the Senate confirmed Alito to the Supreme Court by a vote of 58-42, with four Democratic senators voting for confirmation and one Republican and an Independent voting against.
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It looks like NPR is seeing this in the same light as me:

Fearful GOP Incumbents May Go To The Mat On Kagan : NPR
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So she played softball AND she's not married at her age

Definitely gay

Now there are articles in which her friends are saying she's not gay. Why do they even have to do that? Do the unmarried men of her age who played softball (or not) get all this attention about whether or not they're gay?

Softball question - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com

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Do the unmarried men of her age who played softball (or not) get all this attention about whether or not they're gay?
If they choke up on the bat like THAT when they hit... gotta be gay.
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Sorry, Indy, that's a swing and a miss.

If it was a man choking up like that, then maybe that crack works.

But that's classic girly style.
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well, the male equivalent of "she played softball in college" is "he also loves opera."
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