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Old 02-21-2012, 06:41 PM   #136
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Blacks and hispanics score lower on standardized tests than white and Asians, even when placing in a control for class.
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Old 02-21-2012, 09:26 PM   #137
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A troubling stat and not one that really helps the case of Affirmative Action if you ask me.
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Old 02-21-2012, 10:04 PM   #138
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Well, sociologists say they think there is an added pressure that causes it. They have done studies on how people respond to knowing information like what races do better on certain things and it has consistently shown that if your understanding is that people of your race struggle with something, it negatively affects performance.
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Old 02-22-2012, 11:20 PM   #139
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Well, sociologists say they think there is an added pressure that causes it. They have done studies on how people respond to knowing information like what races do better on certain things and it has consistently shown that if your understanding is that people of your race struggle with something, it negatively affects performance.
Well who in America spreads venomous ideas like "what races do better on certain things"?

Hint: The same people that oppose school vouchers and would rather doom minority students to the inferior, government-monopoly school system and accept some psychobabble "kids struggle with feelings" excuse for poor performance rather than admit the utter failure of the education bureaucracy and the teacher unions when it comes to teaching this country's children.

Too harsh?
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Old 02-22-2012, 11:22 PM   #140
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Which party is cutting the shit out of education funding in my state? Take a wild fucking guess. You want to really do the education dance on party lines? Because for every voucher argument you bring, I can bring you ten examples of the rich fucks in your party showing complete indifference to education.
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I'm certainly not going to deny that our education system has a buttload of problems in its current state and could certainly do with some massive overhaul and improvement.

But from what I understand about vouchers, I don't really see how that's exactly any better a solution.

PhilsFan is right. Cutting funding is a pretty damn big reason for a great deal of the problems. Especially given that the reasons for doing so often don't make any sort of sense.
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I dunno. . .The U.S. spends more per student than most other industrialized nations and yet we're still lagging.

I'm not convinced that throwing more money at it is the solution.
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Old 02-23-2012, 10:18 PM   #143
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Well who in America spreads venomous ideas like "what races do better on certain things"?

Hint: The same people that oppose school vouchers and would rather doom minority students to the inferior, government-monopoly school system and accept some psychobabble "kids struggle with feelings" excuse for poor performance rather than admit the utter failure of the education bureaucracy and the teacher unions when it comes to teaching this country's children.

Too harsh?

Not sure.

I'm not following the logic.

I don't have an issue with vouchers though.

(Full disclosure: the vast majority of the students who attend the private school I teach are voucher students. And the city schools are pathetic. The kids that come in from the district, especially those coming in at seventh and eighth grade--which I teach, it's like they learned nothing over there).
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Not sure.

I'm not following the logic.

I don't have an issue with vouchers though.

(Full disclosure: the vast majority of the students who attend the private school I teach are voucher students. And the city schools are pathetic. The kids that come in from the district, especially those coming in at seventh and eighth grade--which I teach, it's like they learned nothing over there).
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Spend per primary school student by country:
# 1 Denmark: $6,713.00 per student
# 2 Switzerland: $6,470.00 per student
# 3 Austria: $6,065.00 per student
# 4 United States: $6,043.00 per student
# 13 Germany: $3,531.00 per student
# 14 United Kingdom: $3,329.00 per student
Good for you for pointing this out.
Our problem isn't how much we spend but how we spend. Off the top of my head we waste or misspend funds on:

1. Poor teachers that can't be fired
2. Educrats in the Dept of Education (10 of the 15 riches counties in America are in the Washington D.C area for a reason)
3. Palatial estate school buildings
4. Self-serving teachers unions
5. Superfluous courses
6. Students that shouldn't even be here

I'm sure you could add to the list. And how sad to hear firsthand accounts of how kids are being so underserved by our education system. I really believe every, EVERY, American child should have an opportunity for a quality education. But providing that would require, as Newt would say, fundamental changes in how we provide it.

This is a topic were conservatives are for overhauling the system and liberals defend for the status quo, i.e., demagogue and keep throwing money at the problem.
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Tell me, what is a superfluous course?
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This session is over, and many are saying The Conservative Court
leaned a bit left this year. And I am not just talking gay marriage and Obama Care.

Huge is the redistricting case that just got upheld today. If it had been over turned this would have been a giant gain for the GOP.

Every two years the GOP loses the congressional elections. (popular vote) but come away with more seats. If Kennedy had gone with the 4 conservatives their gerrymandered margins would have gotten even larger.

http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-...629-story.html
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looking at the chart in this article


it looks like the 4 liberal judges bested the 4 conservative (not including Kennedy) 11 to 3

Supreme Court Decisions 2014-2015 - WSJ.com
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Old 06-29-2015, 04:42 PM   #148
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with the scathing decents by Scalia and other conservatives,

hopefully Kennedy will see them as the worthless backward thinking feeble minded people they are : textualists, originalists, what a bunch of crap!

So now they let GOP pols know they can not make fake laws to outlaw all abortion

Supreme Court blocks Texas abortion law from taking effect - LA Times
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