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Old 01-08-2011, 03:50 PM   #46
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hearsay from AZ State Senator Lopez,
is that the shooter is an Afghan War Vet. :



edit to add

Fox News just said he is 22 year old white male, Jared Laughner. Sept 1988 birth

edit for AZ Pima County Sheriff News Conference

weapon was pistol with extended magazine
have not found vehicle, do not know how shooter got to event
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Old 01-08-2011, 03:59 PM   #47
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I have been watching FoxNews and State Senator Lopez just said she was a frequent target of the vitriol of the Tea Party.
Keep in mind, she was/is a big supporter of HC reform. Their biggest issue?

She won a very close race, in two years the GOP could perhaps pick up her seat for the GOP. Most Liberals are in safe districts that will not ever swing to the GOP.
That is why Mods are aways under attack, they are in swing districts, they are vulnerable.
Yeah she supported HC, but so did every Democrat.

It just doesn't make any sense to me. With the GOP now controlling the House, she's essentially powerless. If anything, she could be brought on board with the GOP on a number of issues. I don't get why you take her out considering a continuing GOP trend puts her seat very much in play in 2012.

For the time being, I'll say it wasn't politically motivated. If they had just shot Giffords and nobody else, maybe. But the fact that this person just opened firing hitting a bunch of people (and killing a Bush-appointed judge, I just heard) makes me think otherwise.
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We need a mod to change this thread's title.

I hope she makes it.
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For the time being, I'll say it wasn't politically motivated. If they had just shot Giffords and nobody else, maybe. But the fact that this person just opened firing hitting a bunch of people (and killing a Bush-appointed judge, I just heard) makes me think otherwise.
That's a good point.

I wonder if he thought "well, I can't just shoot her, I'll have to make it look like it wasn't about her, so I'd better shoot more."

(.... as if I have any idea how people who shoot 12 people with a semiautomatic weapon think.)
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The trauma director Rhee just said they were optimistic about Congresswoman Gifford.. This is such a sad story about politics - this is what I feared about the rhetoric that people talk about "reloading" and guns and such ...

I'm sad for America.

PS - Not every Dem support HCR - unfortunately HCR didn't go far enough for the Dems to fully support and that's why America can't get on the same page - IF we had the Public Option even Republicans at one point had supported it.
Now in defense what two day ago, only 3 Dems voted against the repeal of HCR amazing.
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A nine year old girl has died. I'm sick.
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Yeah she supported HC, but so did every Democrat.

It just doesn't make any sense to me. With the GOP now controlling the House, she's essentially powerless. If anything, she could be brought on board with the GOP on a number of issues. I don't get why you take her out considering a continuing GOP trend puts her seat very much in play in 2012.

For the time being, I'll say it wasn't politically motivated. If they had just shot Giffords and nobody else, maybe. But the fact that this person just opened firing hitting a bunch of people (and killing a Bush-appointed judge, I just heard) makes me think otherwise.
Oh well, if YOU say it wasn't then PHEW - what a load off my mind.
Giffords was the only one who was shot point blank in the head. Unless it was an angry ex boyfriend, I'd say it's pretty politically motivated.
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How can someone kill a child? How? How incredibly sad -
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Giffords was the only one who was shot point blank in the head.
Ugh. Yeah, that's a good better point.

Blerg.
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A person that is a public servant - having a community event to serve her community and people meeting her - well I don't get it - I need more information - How do we get people to become public servants when they aren't safe? And people talk re-loading and they aren't safe?

ETA - where was the Judge at? I haven't heard that part?
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Assuming this was politically motivated (and honestly, when this stuff happens, I assume there's some level of mental illness involved as well), I'd like to see people in high places refer to this sort of thing as what it is: terrorism.

The guy who shoots a politician he disagrees with. The guy who flies a plane into an IRS building. The guy sending mail bombs to Maryland government. Terrorists.

They get dismissed as lone crazies, but I'd say they're pretty easily spurred on by the rhetoric being spewed by talking heads and politicians.

To paraphrase a certain singer from a Bullet the Blue Sky rant - Hey, middle eastern terrorists, we don't need your help. America's making war upon itself.

(Again, this is assuming it was politically motivated.)
there are no white terrorists.
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This is the youtube channel of the alleged shooter Jared Lee Loughner. He's insane.

YouTube - Classitup10's Channel
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hope she makes it.
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the last I heard is that only the child has died

there has been a scatter shot of bad information, I hope is was a small caliber gun.
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There is no evidence whatsoever this was politically motivated.
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Giffords, 40, was holding a constituent meeting at the store when the shooting occurred, according to a schedule posted on her website.
Arizona congresswoman among 18 shot at Tucson grocery - CNN.com

Actually, I'd say it pretty likely it was, considering the event going on at the store in the first place.
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