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Old 01-11-2011, 12:05 AM   #256
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I couldn't have asked for a more perfect example of overblown rhetoric than that, oscar:

1. A few isolated left-wingers talk about Obama needing a tragedy to connect with the American people. Overblown rhetoric!!

2. Rush Limbaugh uses a few isolated instances of overblown rhetoric as a spring board to claim that "Democrats Eager to See Obama Profit Politically from Mass Murder."

OVERBLOWN RHETORIC!!!

Honestly, did that headline not even phase you? If the answer to overblown rhetoric is more overblown rhetoric, then we're doomed.
If you look at that response to BVS and why conservative talkshows exist you would have your answer. He's not overblowing it. He's pointing out what the left would avoid showing. Are you telling me these leftist analysts aren't cynical? Of course they are. That's why we saw a massive biased cynical reaction after the shooting. This is just one page. He lists even more. What about the Ford Hood shooting and the toned down attitude of the media then when dealing with radical Islam? It's total hypocrisy. In fact it was so bad I had trouble watching the news because it was so blatant and obvious. The left screwed up and got spanked deservedly. Thank God for a conservative media. If the MSM reaction that happened after the shooting had no conservative response it would look so unbalanced to be similar to something that North Korea would produce on their TV or an article from Pravda.

If you think pointing out left-wing hypocrisy is isolated and overblown then you must think the world is doomed because the material is endless. It just keeps coming.
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Old 01-11-2011, 12:07 AM   #257
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I swear to God, some Americans would be amazed if they sat down and listened to maybe an hour of BBC reporters interviewing their government's officials on-air, and another hour listening to Prime Minister's question period.

Even though they don't always get it right, THAT is hard news, and holding public officials accountable. It would be almost shocking for someone who feeds off the tit of corporate U.S. cable news and corporate U.S. syndicated radio.

I honestly think their head might explode.
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Old 01-11-2011, 12:08 AM   #258
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Um, Fox News and Rush is the most popular cable news network and one of the most popular syndicated radio hosts in the U.S.

Where is this "underdog" conservative mentality coming from, exactly, purpleoscar? For all intents and purposes, the 'MSM' in the States is Fox News and Rush and Beck.
ABC, NBC, and CBS are examples of the MSM. Fox News is a cable network. Rush Limbaugh wasn't always there. It's bigger now but during the Fairness Doctrine it didn't really exist. Internet also helps now.
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Old 01-11-2011, 12:10 AM   #259
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your John Kerry example was incredibly weak -- it was a bad joke on a Bill Maher episode from 2006 that was entirely understood as a bad joke, it was not a political call to arms.
Maybe a bad joke as interpreted by you. But if some loony with half a screw loose (as all these shooters are) hears a prominent Senator and a man who was almost president say something like that, bad things could happen. It was reckless. Imagine if the tables were turned, and Sarah Palin said the exact same thing about President Obama...
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If you look at that response to BVS and why conservative talkshows exist you would have your answer. He's not overblowing it. He's pointing out what the left would avoid showing.
But that's not what he's doing. You really missed Diemen's point and you look incredibly ignorant trying to defend that piece as not being overblown.


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Do you have a problem with Democrats that do that?
1. Yes I do.
2. You still haven't answered the question(s)

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One is the response to the other and both have talking points and an agenda. The conservative media wants to point out what gets left out by the MSM and they support limited government.
I would argue that the conservative media is a disproportionately strong response to the other. As for limited government, I see a lot of conservatives mentioning it, but I don't see a lot of conservatives working towards it. The tax cut to the rich cost this country $900 billion. Pardon me if I question your convinction to limited government and reigning in spending, much less actually working towards solving problems in this country, when you threaten to basically bring the government to a halt unless you get your tax cut. Also, I don't see too many conservatives willing to entertain the idea of cuts to defense spending, yet if you're really honest about limited government, that also means limiting the reach of government abroad.

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You're doing a great job finding examples of overblown rhetoric today. Thanks!
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Thank God for a conservative media. If the MSM reaction that happened after the shooting had no conservative response it would look so unbalanced to be similar to something that North Korea would produce on their TV or an article from Pravda.
You honestly sound kind of unbalanced here and basically whenever you invoke anything involving the Soviets and I say that with all seriousness.

I was born in the former Soviet bloc. I lived there. I know what Pravda is, I know what agitprop is, and you are absolutely ridiculous. And frankly, it's actually borderline offensive to people who had to live under those oppressive regimes.
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If you look at that response to BVS and why conservative talkshows exist you would have your answer. He's not overblowing it.
How is "Democrats eager for Obama to profit from mass murder" not an example of overblown rhetoric??

If you can honestly look at that sentence and find it a perfectly appropriate response, then there's simply no point discussing this further with you.
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I swear to God, some Americans would be amazed if they sat down and listened to maybe an hour of BBC reporters interviewing their government's officials on-air, and another hour listening to Prime Minister's question period.
I dunno...purpleoscar is all ours...
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I swear to God, some Americans would be amazed if they sat down and listened to maybe an hour of BBC reporters interviewing their government's officials on-air, and another hour listening to Prime Minister's question period.

Even though they don't always get it right, THAT is hard news, and holding public officials accountable. It would be almost shocking for someone who feeds off the tit of corporate U.S. cable news and corporate U.S. syndicated radio.

I honestly think their head might explode.
hah, you are not wrong. that's holding your leaders to account, not partisan cable news channels investigating what suits them.
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OVERBLOWN RHETORIC!!!
all caps, bold, and three exclamation marks

is that like screaming, standing on a chair?
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Was my point.
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Remember this Tea Party gem from only a couple of months ago? It is an interesting advertisement, with an entertaining historical twist. I just don't get why they kept showing the pistols on the table. Was that just the work of an unskilled cameraman?

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Same misplaced outrage that fears some kind of socialist takeover but doesn't notice or take issue with the Patriot Act.

People = dumb.
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‎"So Palin & crew are feeling unjustly blamed for the actions of an extremist. Maybe they can ask Muslims for advice on how to deal w/ that."
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