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Old 09-13-2012, 04:01 PM   #76
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Where are these polls?

it is actually 14%
the poll is in the Jerusalem Post



kidding aside,

I am seeing how there could be a strategy here that could flip the election to Romney

Israeli Arab Official Warns Of ‘Armageddon’ Over Anti-Islam Film � CBS DC
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Old 09-13-2012, 04:09 PM   #77
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One thing I want to add is that I don't think newspapers like the NY Daily News and the LA Times should have used that pic of Stevens dying on their front page. There's something exploitive about that and insensitive. Have some respect for the dead, especially the murdered.
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Story today is that this whole "movie" is a scam. The director is actually a Coptic Christian, developed the Jewish for the purpose to raise money and then blame Jews. Some of the actors are coming out saying that was not the script and their lines were edited and overdubbed. Plus he was charged with financial fraud back in 2010.

This whole thing is very odd.
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But how does that explain the terrorists planning this attack weeks ago? That's another report going around. Or is that made up by the U.S. government to tone down the outrage many Muslims feel over this movie? The protests are now in Yemen, Iran, Bangladesh and other places.
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But how does that explain the terrorists planning this attack weeks ago? That's another report going around. Or is that made up by the U.S. government to tone down the outrage many Muslims feel over this movie? The protests are now in Yemen, Iran, Bangladesh and other places.
Some are saying that this "movie"(which is only this 13+ minute video) was screened back in June, and the point was to release it on Sept 11. So it could just be coincidence or calculated to incite.

Who knows...
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Here's a link that talks about all those involved in this video:

Friends of ‘Sam Bacile’: A Who’s Who of the ‘Innocence of Muslims’ Film Project | NewsFeed | TIME.com

There are too many gaping holes in this whole story. I still find it hard to believe the video and the Libyan attacks are a coincidence. If they are, whoa boy...
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Story today is that this whole "movie" is a scam. The director is actually a Coptic Christian, developed the Jewish for the purpose to raise money and then blame Jews. Some of the actors are coming out saying that was not the script and their lines were edited and overdubbed. Plus he was charged with financial fraud back in 2010.

This whole thing is very odd.
It strikes me particularly funny that the guy who came up with this film actually has the last name Christian.

Good god. That's...bizarre. I'm with others here, this whole situation is striking me very strange as well.

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Here is a timeline on what happened on Tuesday in Cairo and Benghazi, as well as the statements from Romney, Clinton, Obama, etc.
The Sequence Of Events Leading To A U.S. Ambassador’s Assassination — And Its Aftermath | TPMDC
Thank you (and thanks to cobl as well for his response to my question).

Yeah, look at Obama's statement in that timeline, and then look at all the stuff Romney says. Not hard to figure out who the more professional person in that situation is.

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He then went on to criticize Obama for what he believes is an unfriendly tone with the American allies in Israel: “For the first time since the [Israeli] independence back in the ’40s, [we] have a president who is trashing Israel, our only friend there.”
We do? When did that happen, I must have missed that.

Inhofe, Romney, Trump (ugh, Trump, go the fuck away already, will you?)? You're all idiots. And you're wrong. Get a goddamned clue.

I liked this tweet from that timeline link:

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"Sorry, but neither breaches of our compound or angry messages will dissuade us from defending freedom of speech AND criticizing bigotry.”
Sounds reasonable to me.
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yeah, that seems mostly probable

I;d say Nakoula Basseley Nakoula is the main guy, and that Sam Imbecil does not exist.

at this point, I don't believe there is any connection with the group that attacked the Libyan embassy, that could have been just like any of the other protests over Islamic offenses
this group was armed and planning an attack and just took advantage of the protests.
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this group was armed and planning an attack and just took advantage of the protests.
That may be true.
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yeah, that seems mostly probable

I;d say Nakoula Basseley Nakoula is the main guy, and that Sam Imbecil does not exist.

at this point, I don't believe there is any connection with the group that attacked the Libyan embassy, that could have been just like any of the other protests over Islamic offenses
this group was armed and planning an attack and just took advantage of the protests.
I can agree with that possibility. People who are already pissed off about something will find ANY chance/excuse to make noise and get violent.
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the filmmaker is a very dishonest person

the actors were defrauded?

Why Are All the Religious References in "Innocence of Muslims" Dubbed? [UPDATED] - On The Media
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They say they were all deceived:

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The entire cast and crew are extremely upset and feel taken advantage of by the producer. We are 100% not behind this film and were grossly misled about its intent and purpose. We are shocked by the drastic re-writes of the script and lies that were told to all involved. We are deeply saddened by the tragedies that have occurred.
'It Makes Me Sick': Actress in Muhammed Movie Says She Was Deceived, Had No Idea It Was About Islam
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I think Romney is being told to criticize Obama in order to appeal to the anti-Obama crowd. That, or it was solely his idea in order to become President. I really think he just wants to win the election so he could sit in the Oval Office and not help America.

Oh, and Trump is a douche
I think Donald trump is a reality TV star that only gets attention on his political views because america is a nation of dopes who give attention to reality TV stars.

And Romney, douche that he may be, has every right to criticize Obama on his foreign policy.

If it turns out that we did, indeed, have 48 hours notice of potential attacks on our embassy, in a dangerous country, on a day when security should be heightened as it is regardless... and we allowed this to happen, and secure documents got out as well...

Yea, it should be discussed in the campaign, it will be discussed, and it could end up costing Obama the presidency.
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It strikes me particularly funny that the guy who came up with this film actually has the last name Christian.
"Coptic Christian" isn't his name, it's his religion...
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I;d say Nakoula Basseley Nakoula is the main guy, and that Sam Imbecil does not exist.
yep, it appears to be a pseudonym...

Film-maker behind anti-Islam trailer stays silent amid media siege | World news | guardian.co.uk
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