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Old 09-12-2012, 12:18 PM   #16
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He knew exactly what he was doing when he made that film. Remember the protests over that Danish cartoon? I agree with AchtungBono, yes he had the right to make that film, but that doesn't mean he should.

The extremists who assassinated our ambassador and his staff will be brought to justice, and I hope to hear more outrage from our allies in the Middle East. Egypt, I'm looking at you.
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:24 PM   #17
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so you can watch the "trailer" for the film here:

Muhammad Movie Trailer - YouTube

it is stupid, offensive, and nonsensical. it's not even bad enough to be good. it's very high school audio-visual club. it's like the KKK making a movie about reconstruction or something. and, no, i don't think the people behind this film are much different from the KKK.

if another group were depicted the way Muslims are depicted in this -- it's not much different than, say, white people in blackface eating watermelon and dancing -- there would most assuredly be protests of some sort, if the film became known. heck, Christians protested "Last Temptation of Christ." protesting is legitimate.

this "rage" and the murder of 4 people is not.
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Old 09-12-2012, 12:38 PM   #18
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it is stupid, offensive, and nonsensical. it's not even bad enough to be good. it's very high school audio-visual club. it's like the KKK making a movie about reconstruction or something. and, no, i don't think the people behind this film are much different from the KKK.
I watched about two minutes of the trailer before I stopped. Its so bad it is laughable.
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Part of me thinks... freedom of speech be damned, this guy should be picked up by the US government, dropped in the middle of Tripoli, and left to the vultures.
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I know its from the Daily Mail (yeah I know, not a good source) but its claiming to have interviewed one of those who funded the film, Steve Klein.

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He said: 'I feel bad for the death of the ambassador - he didn’t do anything to anybody - but it’s not our fault. We didn’t want anybody to get killed but on the other hand the truth had to come out.
'We told the truth and these people reacted the way that Mohammed wanted to them to react - by killing people.
'Do I feel guilt? Yes, but not for me, I feel it for those that did this. Do I feel shame? Yes, but not for me. Killing this man fits in with their legal and ethical standpoint.

Mr Klein, 62, added: 'Whenever the Muslim population gets above 10 per cent they work together and attack the host country. It’s happening in the USA and it’s happening in the UK too.
'Our intent is to show people what America could look like in 50 to 75 years time. We are telling the truth, and it needs to be told.
'We are at the stage where the Trojan Horse has been dragged in and for years and years people have been lied to about Islam.
Read more: Innocence of Muslims creator: Steve Klein said he felt no guilt over death of Chris Stevens | Mail Online


Oh jeez. What a way to add to the flames, you idiot.
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Part of me thinks... freedom of speech be damned, this guy should be picked up by the US government, dropped in the middle of Tripoli, and left to the vultures.


it's a hate film, no question about it.
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Old 09-12-2012, 02:21 PM   #22
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I know its from the Daily Mail (yeah I know, not a good source) but its claiming to have interviewed one of those who funded the film, Steve Klein.

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Read more: Innocence of Muslims creator: Steve Klein said he felt no guilt over death of Chris Stevens | Mail Online


Oh jeez. What a way to add to the flames, you idiot.
Good Lord, the old "America is being taken over by Jihadist forces" paranoia? That's up there with Birtherism and Trutherism for me.

ETA: oh, questionable source? I hope it's lying.
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Old 09-12-2012, 02:35 PM   #23
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ETA: oh, questionable source? I hope it's lying.
Me too. I'll keep searching for other sources.
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I watched about two minutes of the trailer before I stopped. Its so bad it is laughable.

some of you should try and watch this one, it is not as long as Ivines

the audio is low, you will have to turn it up. but it gets to some of the most offensive stuff about The Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him)

Innocence of Muslims - Complete Movie - YouTube


filmmaker had a right to make it?

ok, I don't care if he gets killed,
he is a completely despicable person, we have a lot of them in America.
actions, behavior have consequences, let him reap what he sowed.
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the filmmaker or filmmakers whoever they are

I just read the article Pearl posted

I wonder if this Klein person even exist, for sure the filmmaker or makers exist, people will know who the actors are, they can be contacted and interviewed. The parties that made the film should not be allowed to hide.
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Hitchens - free speech - YouTube

I've always liked what Hitch had to say about speech, and regards to religion. Best part starts at the 12 min mark.

It is a fine line between freedom of speech and dealing with crazy people.
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I read that the Obama administration believes this was planned. And it was on 9/11

Pro-al Qaeda group seen behind deadly Benghazi attack - CNN.com
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As the plot thickens...

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But so far only scant details are known about the movie's shadowy writer/director who calls himself Sam Bacile. The only interviews with him have been done by phone, and what little information he has revealed raises more than a few red flags.
So is there a Sam Bacile, and does "Innocence of Muslims" even exist?
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Meanwhile, efforts to uncover the film's anonymous funders have so far turned up nothing. Jeffrey Goldberg, national correspondent for the Atlantic, tweeted on Wednesday: "I would love to know more about Mr. Sam Bacile, whom no Jew I know has ever heard, and his 100 mysterious backers."
That's assuming there even is a film. In early July, two 13-minute clips were posted on a YouTube account by someone with the username Sam Bacile, but no one has come forward claiming to have seen the finished product. Moreover, IMDb lists nothing for the project or Bacile himself, to say nothing of the supposed 59 actors and 45 crew members who worked on it.
According to the AP, Bacile said he screened the movie to a "nearly empty" theater in Hollywood, but he did not name a specific venue. Google searches reveal no evidence of a screening ever being announced, and given the subject matter, it's unlikely that an established Hollywood screening room would have agreed to show it.
Sam Bacile And His Low-Budget Anti-Muslim Movie: Is It All A Hoax? - International Business Times

Earlier I saw a Bangladeshi article that said Becile is actually a Christian who works with Terry Jones. I didn't link it because the article sounded more like a rant than a report. But I'll see if I can find it.
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Yeah, they are saying Becile is a pseudonym. And it's a film backed by Christians.

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As part of my search for more information about Sam Bacile, the alleged producer of the now-infamous anti-Muhammad film trailer "The Innocence of Muslims," I just called a man named Steve Klein -- a self-described militant Christian activist in Riverside, California (whose actual business, he said, is in selling "hard-to-place home insurance"), who has been described in multiple media accounts as a consultant to the film.
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He said the man who identified himself as Bacile asked him to help make the anti-Muhammad film. When I asked him to describe Bacile, he said: "I don't know that much about him. I met him, I spoke to him for an hour. He's not Israeli, no. I can tell you this for sure, the State of Israel is not involved, Terry Jones (the radical Christian Quran-burning pastor) is not involved. His name is a pseudonym. All these Middle Eastern folks I work with have pseudonyms. I doubt he's Jewish. I would suspect this is a disinformation campaign."
Muhammad Film Consultant: 'Sam Bacile' is Not Israeli, and Not a Real Name - Jeffrey Goldberg - The Atlantic
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