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Old 09-16-2012, 09:55 PM   #136
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McCain is a good man.
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:32 PM   #137
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McCain is a good man.
I wouldn't go that far. But if he's starting to come back from being insane like he was in 2008, that's a positive for everyone.
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Old 09-16-2012, 10:43 PM   #138
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I wouldn't go that far. But if he's starting to come back from being insane like he was in 2008, that's a positive for everyone.
He wasn't insane in 2008. Just insanely unconvincing, actually not that much unlike Romney.
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Old 09-16-2012, 11:33 PM   #139
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He wasn't insane in 2008. Just insanely unconvincing, actually not that much unlike Romney.


picking Sarah Palin to be on 73-year old cancer survivor's heartbeat from the presidency was and is insane.

i give him props here, though.
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Old 09-17-2012, 08:51 AM   #140
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I think John McCain is still a good man in his core, he's merely been overtaken by certain elements of the GOP and he's been in Washington for so long. But he remains one of the few with the integrity to speak the truth as he sees it instead of the party line.

The telling thing there is that Hannity was surprised that John McCain wasn't siding with him. OMG, how DARE he not? If someone on CNN acted like that Hannity would probably say that CNN was disrespecting a POW.
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Old 09-17-2012, 09:02 AM   #141
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I think John McCain is still a good man in his core, he's merely been overtaken by certain elements of the GOP and he's been in Washington for so long. But he remains one of the few with the integrity to speak the truth as he sees it instead of the party line.

The telling thing there is that Hannity was surprised that John McCain wasn't siding with him. OMG, how DARE he not? If someone on CNN acted like that Hannity would probably say that CNN was disrespecting a POW.
My sentiments exactly. I think there was little McCain could have done back in 2008 to win, but I think his appealing to the far right ultimately was one of the biggest contributors to his lost. He seemed to have lost the plot, I think the GOP could have one this election(I know too early to call, but it doesn't look good for them) if they had put someone more like McCain(used to be) in the seat. They really need someone who won't tow the line 24/7 because their line scares free thinkers, their line scares a lot of independents who really just find their economics appealing.
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The sad thing is I doubt we'll see any other prominent Republican back McCain up on this one.
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Old 09-17-2012, 01:39 PM   #143
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Even though McCain bowed to the more radical Right in his party during his campaign he still had moments of courage that I have yet to see in Romney. Remember when some people starting saying ugly things about Obama at one of his rallies and he reprimanded them?
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Remember when some people starting saying ugly things about Obama at one of his rallies and he reprimanded them?
Yes, I still remember that. Romney and courage don't go together in my mind.
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I wouldn't give him too much credit for trying to distance himself from the ramblings of a crazy lady
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the President continues to act with tact, nuance, and maximum efficacy.
Right, because nothing says "tact" like flying to Las Vegas for a campaign speech on the same day news breaks that an American ambassador has been dragged through the streets and killed along with several other Americans.

And what is the desired effect of telling the American people these attacks were spontaneous when the Libyan president, the circumstances and the facts all say something different, confussion?
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I wouldn't give him too much credit for trying to distance himself from the ramblings of a crazy lady

Yes, well, Romney can't even be troubled to do that so. . .
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Right, because nothing says "tact" like flying to Las Vegas for a campaign speech on the same day news breaks that an American ambassador has been dragged through the streets and killed along with several other Americans.

And what is the desired effect of telling the American people these attacks were spontaneous when the Libyan president, the circumstances and the facts all say something different, confussion?

Hang on a second. . .several friends of mine on Facebook that are pretty right-wing are reporting versions of the ambassador's death similar to what you are describing. I've variously heard that he was dragged through the streets by a mob and even one person saying he was sodomized, and yet I don't seem to hear that on any of the regular news reports. I admit I don't watch much TV news, but I do listen to NPR every day and not once did I hear his death described in this manner. My understanding was that he died of smoke inhalation and was taken to a hospital by Libyans. Did I miss something is or are right-wing media sources just making up stuff about what happened?

Also, I've heard from a wide variety of sources that the attacks in Libya were likely NOT spontaneous. Are you suggesting that the White House is maintaining that they were spontaneous even in the face of all this reporting to the opposite. Again, I've not heard anything to that effect.
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Yes, well, Romney can't even be troubled to do that so. . .
hahaha, touche
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