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Old 11-16-2009, 06:51 PM   #16
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One of my sophomores actually responded to the story by saying, "Well, snitches get stitches." Another (female) student wanted to know what she was wearing and why she was acting all "fast" by going outside with a bunch of boys.

I wanted to quit my job that day.
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:53 PM   #17
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Another (female) student wanted to know what she was wearing and why she was acting all "fast" by going outside with a bunch of boys.
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:58 PM   #18
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I second that

What can be done about that? Something has to be done.
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:00 PM   #19
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I second that

What can be done about that? Something has to be done.
Mmm, get them fixed so they cant reproduce
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:11 PM   #20
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What can be done about that? Something has to be done.
I just don't know. I attempted to rationalize. Some kids get it and some don't. I am regularly taken aback by the attitudes and opinions of some of my students.
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:28 PM   #21
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The bystanders should be rounded up and charged with criminal solicitation.

Stories like this make me understand the dark side of me that loves Dexter.
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:33 PM   #22
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Yes there is the bystander effect-but to take pictures and videos? That goes way beyond that. Did they do that because other people were doing it too?
Taking pictures and videos may have to do with the way women are treated in the media and in video games. I've heard of rape being glamorized in porn. Remember that fashion ad some years ago that showed men pinning down a woman? I usually don't blame the media for the way people act, but for this case, I can't help but wonder.

ETA: But I also agree with Khanada. People are apathetic these days, Good Samaritans are rare.
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The bystanders should be rounded up and charged with criminal solicitation.

Stories like this make me understand the dark side of me that loves Dexter.
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The bystanders should be rounded up and charged with criminal solicitation.
I'm seriously wondering if they can be charged with possession/dissemination of child pornography (the ones that took pics or video).

I can never understand this idea that some people wonder what the woman was wearing and who she was hanging out with. When somebody gets murdered in cold blood, do we blame them because they happened to drive through a bad neighbourhood and got shot unwittingly? It's totally absurd.

Rape victims get raped repeatedly.
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Old 11-16-2009, 08:37 PM   #25
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I just don't know. I attempted to rationalize. Some kids get it and some don't. I am regularly taken aback by the attitudes and opinions of some of my students.
I know what you mean. . .
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I just don't know. I attempted to rationalize. Some kids get it and some don't. I am regularly taken aback by the attitudes and opinions of some of my students.
Should I just depress everyone more and add that there are plenty of adults who think along those lines as well?

No?

Okay, pretend I didn't say anything.
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I guess having no consciences is the "in" thing now.
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i don't think these things are more or less common, or people are more or less bad than they were a generation ago.

i think that now things get reported in a way they weren't years ago.

take whatever small solace from that idea that you can, i suppose. it's the only hope i can muster from such abject awfulness.
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Mass immigration mixed with neoliberalism/globalism/hypercapitalism mixed with lack of respect for the much maligned 'traditional family values' will almost inevitably result in such outcomes, I'm not precisely sure why everyone is so surprised - I can only speculate it might be because it would involve admitting the social conservatives had a point all along.
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i don't think these things are more or less common, or people are more or less bad than they were a generation ago.
Very true.

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Mass immigration mixed with neoliberalism/globalism/hypercapitalism mixed with lack of respect for the much maligned 'traditional family values' will almost inevitably result in such outcomes, I'm not precisely sure why everyone is so surprised - I can only speculate it might be because it would involve admitting the social conservatives had a point all along.
There is so much wrong with this statement
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